Comments Thread For: Chavez-Fonfara: $100K Fine In Place For Each Pound

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  • bigdunny1
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    #21
    I won't be shocked if Chavez Jr still doesn't make weight. He has no discipline.

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    • Scott9945
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      #22
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      The fight automatically becomes second-rate, or an exhibition bout.

      * The best thing in boxing is divisional supremacy
      * Catchweight fights do not count when considering divisional supremacy
      * They therefore become second-rate, considering the big picture

      They are fine for entertainment, but cannot be taken seriously.

      If the fight is serious, why do they need a catchweight ?
      The only weights that matter are what is written in the contract. And non title fights have always been about the contracted weight rather than the divisional weight, since there is no title at stake. If this is the weight that gets the fight made, what's the problem?

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      • The Problem Child
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        #23
        Chavez will easily pay an extra 100k but dat aint nothing for la Vaca De Dinero baby. WE BACK!!! **** the haters!! #FatLifestyle #CalorieDeficit #****NutrientsAndProteins #WarChavez

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #24
          Originally posted by Scott9945
          The only weights that matter are what is written in the contract.
          " matter " ?

          What do you mean by " matter ", matter to who ?

          The only fights that matter relate to divisional supremacy.

          Catchweight fights do not relate to divisional supremacy..... so, they do not matter.

          Originally posted by Scott9945
          and non title fights have always been about the contracted weight rather than the divisional weight, since there is no title at stake.
          No, that is not true at all.

          90% of non-title fights take place at the standard divisional limit.

          Catchweights are exceptions, which is why they dont " matter ".

          Originally posted by Scott9945
          If this is the weight that gets the fight made, [B]what's the problem?
          An exhibition match = no problem.....anything else, is rubbish imo.

          Lets look at it a different way......

          Tell me why you think boxing has weight divisions.

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #25
            There are only two reasons why a fighter would require a catchweight.....

            1) he is not good enough to compete evenly with his opponent, because of size differential

            2) he is attempting to drain his opponent, to gain an unfair advantage

            Neither reason is acceptable.

            I dont understand why this is not plainly obvious.

            If he is not good enough to compete evenly with his opponent, because of size differential..... then fakk off back to your own division dumba55.

            If he is attempting to drain his opponent, to gain an unfair advantage..... then fakk off back to your own division dumba55.

            We have 17 divisions today, surely these guys can find one that is suitable?

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            • babynuts
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              #26
              Chavez will finish the night with less money than he started with.

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              • Jayallday9
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                #27
                I'm still waiting to see an action packed showdown between Chavez jr and Canelo. I only have room for one fake "Mexican warrior" who refuses to fight at his real weight

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                • chicity19
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                  #28
                  Chavez probably trying to drain Fonfara but I still don't think that will help him. Fonfara puts together a nice set of hard punches.. I think he fought Campillo at 173 and was losing that fight until he stuck Campillo with a body shot and the fight was over.

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                  • Dean_Razorback
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hougigo
                    Chavez jnr never missed weight....dagawd
                    no, weight misses him

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Jayallday9
                      I'm still waiting to see an action packed showdown between Chavez jr and Canelo. I only have room for one fake "Mexican warrior" who refuses to fight at his real weight
                      Lets say Canelos real weight is 160..... it likely is, not sure exactly, only Canelo and his camp will know for sure.

                      But what is jnr's real weight ?

                      The Vera fights were at different weights right ?

                      IIRC one was something like 172, and the other was renegotiated at the last minute?

                      What is his real weight now, 168 ?

                      Is it fair to say that he can no longer make 160? I seem to recall Chavez really struggling, then having some assistance (furosimide, or however it is spelt), when trying to make 160, and that was some time ago......

                      ..... and if he is now having similar problems making 168, is his "real" weight now 175?

                      no idea.

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