The Gennady Golovkin Myth

[just the facts]

So because of one garbage fight, no one has ever ducked Gennady Golovkin? Come on, Dirk, it's not opinion that Golovkin was ducked by damn near the entire middleweight division, it's an easily researched fact. It's just as easy to look up how they've tried to make other fights at 168 that fell through. Not wanting to fight Andre Ward doesn't mean Golovkin's team has never tried to make good fights and it's all a myth.

You're looking for reasons to dismiss Golovkin, and you've done it before. I'm assuming it's only because of the morons on NSB who say ****** crap about him, and that's kind of a dumb reason.

one garbage fight?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

does anyone with a twitter account feel like actually confronting loeffler about this? two simple questions - "if golovkin wanted to face a slick southpaw, why not lara?" and "did you actually make an offer to lara?" - should shed some light.

Yeah that's a good idea. I don't have Twatter. Hopefully Loeffler's answers won't be as humiliating as his previous statements about Lara

[NEETzsche]

What a dramatic f@g lol
Talk about what Lara says now?
How about him saying that he is staying at 154 in that video? lol
Keep crying about this dumb ****. Lara does not want it.

if team golovkin are willing to make futile offers to cotto, why not test the waters with lara? they also clearly have no qualms about contacting inferior opponents like monroe jr, so don't give me any bs about the onus being on team lara to make an offer to team golovkin either

[i'm a fun haver]

does anyone with a twitter account feel like actually confronting loeffler about this? two simple questions - "if golovkin wanted to face a slick southpaw, why not lara?" and "did you actually make an offer to lara?" - should shed some light.

Lara is at 154 and a Haymon fighter.
How do YOU think he is going to fight GGG at MIDDLEWEIGHT on HBO?

[i'm a fun haver]

if team golovkin are willing to make futile offers to cotto, why not test the waters with lara? They also clearly have no qualms about contacting inferior opponents like monroe jr, so don't give me any bs about the onus being on team lara to make an offer to team golovkin either

junior middleweight
al haymon fighter
hbo
how?

[i'm a fun haver]

Yeah that's a good idea. I don't have Twatter. Hopefully Loeffler's answers won't be as humiliating as his previous statements about Lara

Yeah, it's obvious that you don't follow what is going on. You just get mad and cry about **** without having an informed opinion.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lara is at 154 and a Haymon fighter.
How do YOU think he is going to fight GGG at MIDDLEWEIGHT on HBO?

If it's impossible to put that fight on, then why did Tom Loeffler publicly state that it could happen next post-Murray?

Aren't you mad at GGG's manager to lyeeeing to zee fanzzz?

[NEETzsche]

junior middleweight
al haymon fighter
hbo
how?

lara wants it; loeffler said it was possible. i am fairly confident that lara would fight at 160 lbs for a shot at golovkin. loeffler claims he can work with haymon.

[i'm a fun haver]

If it's impossible to put that fight on, then why did Tom Loeffler publicly state that it could happen next post-Murray?

Aren't you mad at GGG's manager to lyeeeing to zee fanzzz?

**** "IF"! If it can happen next, it is not going to. Lara is not moving up. That's the way it is.
I have already slapped you down in this thread multiple times.
**** what Tom Loeffler or any other promoter says. Look at what is going on in boxing.
Stop crying and pay attention to which fighters are fighting where.
Lara was calling for Cotto too
Do you expect that fight to happen? Rocnation fighter vs Haymon fighter?
Politics and weight classes exist

[SeekDaGreat]

If it was for a unification or one of those guys was GGG's mandatory and they really wanted the fight then yes. GGG was not going to drop the WBA belt when Fletcher was mando even if HBO didn't pick that fight up. He wants to unify the division and has HBO's support. Lara was not on their radar back in Feb last year when he started talking because Lara was still at 154(not a unification or mandatory defense at 160) and still with Haymon.
One of those guys just walking over to HBO and getting a fight? I doubt it. Haymon is paying money out of his own pocket for his guys to fight on other networks. Remember the fights that his guys were in on Showtime last year? Haymon didn't give Showtime any more than he had to after Schaefer was booted from GBP because the NBC deal was in the works.
Lara would have to move up to 160(which he said on video that he doesn't plan to do). That's why I have constantly brought up Jacobs(stablemate) or Cotto(RocNation) for Lara. I doubt it would be Cotto because he is with RN now. Remember Quillin dumping his belt rather than fight Korobov on a RN card on HBO?
A win vs either one of those guys would put him in position to get this fight that people think he wants.
What does Quillin bring to the table if he doesn't beat Andy Lee? If Quillin wins that fight, there is still Billy Joe Saunders next in line for the WBO belt. 2 fights pretty much wraps up 2015 for Quillin. Even then, Quillin would have to want the fight, which he hasn't shown any interest in.
Haymon fighter Gary Russell Jr fought Lomachenko. The fight was on Showtime because GBP/Haymon won the bid. Vanes vs Lara was a purse bid situation that GBP won and the fight was on HBO when Haymon managed fighters were still fighting on HBO. It has happened before, but since the rift, Haymon fighters haven't been fighting on HBO just because they want to. Edwin Rodriguez fighting Andre Ward on HBO happened because HBO wouldn't approve Truax, Kashtanov or Sartision for Ward and E-Rod had just recently signed with Haymon.
It isn't as simple as one of those Haymon fighters walking in and getting a fight on HBO.
Why do I have to explain this?

Holy ****. Great book. Who published it?