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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Man be quiet about the 40Mil and no PPV because I remember Manny Pacquiao saying he would take less than Mayweather, fight for free or give his money to charity so shut up and stop getting mad because Manny has lied, put up road blocks B.S.'d for 5 years.
    You and some others here, but only here, believe what you just said. The rest of the world see Floyd as the Duck lol.

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    • People still arguing over failed negotiations for a fight that was later successfully negotiated... and i thought i was a weirdo

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      • Originally posted by richardt View Post
        You still are living in a fantasy. Floyd called up Pac to NEGOTIATE on FLOYD's terms! It is NOT the 40 million, it is the NO PPV that is the roadblock! If it was a low ball, everyone would know that Floyd added some percentage of the PPV to the offer and he DID NOT! It was a take it or leave it! NO PPV is a ROADBLOCK
        http://thaboxingvoice.com/stephen-es...d/35368?var=no

        you are WRONG about the no PPV among other things. Now your next excuse will be Espinoza is a liar.
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-21-2015, 06:39 AM.

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        • Riiiiight

          Originally posted by sargo View Post
          You and some others here, but only here, believe what you just said. The rest of the world see Floyd as the Duck lol.

          "But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp."

          http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            http://thaboxingvoice.com/stephen-es...d/35368?var=no

            you are WRONG about the no PPV among other things. Now your next excuse will be Espinoza is a liar.
            Fantastic job at shooting yourself in the head!!!! Read and weep! The world know that Mayweather said no PPV and he has never denied saying that!

            Pac: "He offered me $40 million, and no pay-per-view [money]," Pacquiao said, breaking into a laugh. "No pay-per-view. Can you believe that? Would you do that? Come on. What would he say if I offered him $50 million not $40 million, $50 million; and said 'No pay-per-view. Take this money and be happy, but no pay-per-view.' He wouldn't do it, either."

            Wikipedia: Mayweather offered to pay Pac a flat fee of US$40 million for a proposed fight but would not allow him to share in the revenue. Pacquiao said, "I spoke to Floyd...and he offered me an amount," Pacquiao said. No PPV. I can't agree with that. I told him I agree with 55 and 45 (split)."

            IT IS A FACT THAT FLOYD SAID NO PPV! THAT IS AN OBSTACLE!
            Last edited by richardt; 03-21-2015, 12:00 PM.

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            • Originally posted by richardt View Post
              Fantastic job at shooting yourself in the head!!!! Read and weep! The world know that Mayweather said no PPV and he has never denied saying that!

              Pac: "He offered me $40 million, and no pay-per-view [money]," Pacquiao said, breaking into a laugh. "No pay-per-view. Can you believe that? Would you do that? Come on. What would he say if I offered him $50 million not $40 million, $50 million; and said 'No pay-per-view. Take this money and be happy, but no pay-per-view.' He wouldn't do it, either."

              Wikipedia: Mayweather offered to pay Pac a flat fee of US$40 million for a proposed fight but would not allow him to share in the revenue. Pacquiao said, "I spoke to Floyd...and he offered me an amount," Pacquiao said. No PPV. I can't agree with that. I told him I agree with 55 and 45 (split)."

              IT IS A FACT THAT FLOYD SAID NO PPV! THAT IS AN OBSTACLE!
              Like I said you would say..... Espinoza's a liar. An obstacle but later he says he would fight for free? What sense does that make? I provided you a link with there being an upside in PPV and you provided one saying it wasn't. I heard it was 40Mil flat but also heard it was an upside offered. Who's lying? Manny turned down 40 Mil to later say he would fight for free by donating his money to charity? Should he even be believed? Dude is making 80Mil and ain't talking about giving nada. 40Mil was a low ball offer and Manny countered with 50/50 AFTER he said he would take less to the press. So how is it a road block if he calls Manny out on his bluff? Manny lied AGAIN because 50/50 ain't taking less.
              Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-21-2015, 01:50 PM.

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              • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Like I said you would say..... Espinoza's a liar. An obstacle but later he says he would fight for free? What sense does that make? I provided you a link with there being an upside in PPV and you provided one saying it wasn't. I heard it was 40Mil flat but also heard it was an upside offered. Who's lying? Manny turned down 40 Mil to later say he would fight for free by donating his money to charity? Should he even be believed? Dude is making 80Mil and ain't talking about giving nada. 40Mil was a low ball offer and Manny countered with 50/50 AFTER he said he would take less to the press. So how is it a road block if he calls Manny out on his bluff? Manny lied AGAIN because 50/50 ain't taking less.
                Why are you arguing with him? Wait until after the fight

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                • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  Like I said you would say..... Espinoza's a liar. An obstacle but later he says he would fight for free? What sense does that make? I provided you a link with there being an upside in PPV and you provided one saying it wasn't. I heard it was 40Mil flat but also heard it was an upside offered. Who's lying? Manny turned down 40 Mil to later say he would fight for free by donating his money to charity? Should he even be believed? Dude is making 80Mil and ain't talking about giving nada. 40Mil was a low ball offer and Manny countered with 50/50 AFTER he said he would take less to the press. So how is it a road block if he calls Manny out on his bluff? Manny lied AGAIN because 50/50 ain't taking less.
                  Who said Espinoza is a liar?? Still doesn't mean he knows what went on over their phone conversation. Only Pac and Floyd do and Pac announced what went on with the 40 Mill NO PPV and Floyd never denied it and it is one record as a fact and it stands, Floyd said no PPV. That is a roadblock.

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                  • Originally posted by Arshad221 View Post
                    Why are you arguing with him? Wait until after the fight
                    We are not debating who will win. We never have.

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                    • Freddie, Freddie, Freddie....here's what we can't deny.
                      Freddie has done a good job of adding the right hand to Manny's arsenal.
                      Freddie has done a good job of focusing on what Manny does well.
                      Freddie will say some really dumb stuff, and contradict previous comments.

                      Here's the concern: 8 time T.O.Y., has not been able to correct the flaws of Pacquiao.
                      1. Balance : when attacking, he's off balance.
                      2. Not defensive responsible. This is a link to his poor balance also.
                      3. Dropping the left when he jabs, which is the main reason he get hit with right hands. See Algeria, Bradley, Morales, and all 4 Marquez fights. T.O.Y., and you can't correct this flaw?
                      4. He has one style, listen to Algeria say, he's the best at fighting like Manny. So, what is the plan Freddie, he can't change!

                      My 1 cent on the fight:
                      1. Floyd finds and sets the distance with his jab to the head and body. (watch the body work Floyd does, Pacquiao hates it to the body).
                      2. Floyd will counter over Pacquia jab, with the right hand and exit left avoiding the left hand of Pacquiao.
                      3. 4th round, Floyd has his timing, and starts beating him to the punch and keeping him off balance with movement.
                      Now, Pacquiao and Freddie has to adapt, but we know Pacquiao fights one way. So, Pacquiao does his famous hop step, and the ****. The punch he doesn't see, which is the hardest...see JMM, punch...hop, hop, jump in, then BOOM...

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