Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Can't Follow Floyd and Walk Into Shots

[richardt]

Here is a better question; Why did Pacquiao walk away from the fight over the issue of OSDT?

Here is a more intelligent summary:

Why did each fighter put up a set of obstacles?

I'll tell you why. Both have huge egos and each felt like they were the A side and that means an immovable force meets an irresistible object like two bulls clashing and both not wanting to concede to the other till time caught up with them and the outcry was too much and they both realized the fight has to happen! THAT is what is called an unbias look. Take a seat and come back when you can look at both sides of the picture, both sides of the story. Till then, bye bye.

[Pony Boy]

Hello the fight is set and happening who care about the shady past

[richardt]

LOL.

Exactly what does the contract weight for the Mayweather Marquez fight have to do with Pacquiao?

Well, if you had done something bizarre and looked closely, you would know I brought it up to Hustler to prove what I already knew - Hustler cannot criticize Floyd, it would destroy his agenda. If pac was wrong or faulty asking for a lot of money for anything over the agreed weight, then Floyd is wrong or faulty not meeting a contracted weight and Hustler comes up with a diatribe against Pac, blind to Mayweather's faults in on the topic. If both guys did 10 things wrong, Hustler would be blind to everything Floyd did because his emotionally disturbed anti-Arum agenda leaves no room for that.

I can name a few things I don't approve of Pac for. Can you name a few for Floyd? That separates the fans from the fanboys.

Fans see both sides of the game, both sides of fighters. Fanboys aren't interested in a great fight, because that means their fighter could lose. Fanboys only want to see their fighter win at all costs due to bias for their fighter, no "may the best man win" thoughts are allowed because they are biased for their guy or biased against the other guy, unless it is two guys they don't have any bias with.

Their fighter can do no wrong and they never or almost never criticize their fighter because that goes against the agenda. That is the epitome of a fanboy.

I was a fan of Mayweather's for 10 years and even the day that he beat Canelo, both me and Junior Gong came on these boards and PRAISED Mayweather left and right. Junior Gong called it a MASTERCLASS showing by Mayweather and I called it a something similar, an excellent performance. Some fans are not capable of praising a fighter due to bias or they are disingenuous to appear unbiased. But it takes a very special kind of ****** to not see both sides of a story when two top fighters have an ego battle and only give an inch here and there which lead to the fight almost not happening.

I've had arguments with people who said something negative about Floyd that I did not agree with. Fanboys will never take up the other side. Have you ever argued with fans who said something negative about Pac? I would doubt it. That means A) breaking your agenda and B) being seen as sleeping with the enemy by your comrades. I am not a fanboy. But for some on here, if the shoe fits, wear it.

[Koljack]

And keep in mind that there's a big possibility that Floyd is on PEDs. Don't let your fighter get KOed again Roach.






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[BoxVillaKO]

Roach just wants to make sure Pac is economical and not careless with his shots. We all saw Diego run in to Mayweather shots in their 130 pound fight.

Mayweather needs to withstand the pressure in the early rounds and figure out the timing for that right hand. Pac needs to establish a jab and combinations that can get Mayweather to the ropes from the center of the ring.

Although Mayweather is older he has taken a lot of less punishment than Pac. Overall, this isn't an easy fight to pick. I think Mayweather has a better chin than most think, while Pac has the hand and foot speed with angles to pressure Mayweather. I wouldn't be shocked if there is a draw to try to get a more lucrative rematch.

[GRUSTLER]

They agreed to a weight and Floyd failed to make that weight and you slurp his jizz like it is manna from heaven and cannot even see the obstacles he put up. What is DOCUMENTED which you blindly fail to see is both have created blocks to the fight. If you weren't such an obsessive/compulsive looney toon, you would see that. Yes, history shows and will show that Floyd put up obstacles, a number of them. The masses have spoken over the years here and both are to blame. You're single opinion is blunted by the masses. You'll survive.

What does the Marquez fight have to do with Pacquiao? Floyd never had a problem making 147 you numskull so how in the hell does that justify Manny putting a 10 Mil penalty weight clause in for Mayweather because of a catch weight he didn't make for Marquez? the masses can think what they want but what is documented is Manny Pacquiao walked away from the fight because of the testing Floyd asked him to do that he accepted 5 years later so that just makes him look even more suspect. His ego killed the fight in 2009 because he felt according to Pac land "he didn't have to do what Floyd says". That in itself proves that he put up the road block you nitwit.

[northstar]

Here is a more intelligent summary:

Why did each fighter put up a set of obstacles?

I'll tell you why. Both have huge egos and each felt like they were the A side and that means an immovable force meets an irresistible object like two bulls clashing and both not wanting to concede to the other till time caught up with them and the outcry was too much and they both realized the fight has to happen! THAT is what is called an unbias look. Take a seat and come back when you can look at both sides of the picture, both sides of the story. Till then, bye bye.

Many seem to miss that point when discussing why this fight wasn't made years ago. IMO, at the time, both Floyd and Manny were doing similar numbers. As a result, neither man wanted to be dictated to.

[GRUSTLER]

Many seem to miss that point when discussing why this fight wasn't made years ago. IMO, at the time, both Floyd and Manny were doing similar numbers. As a result, neither man wanted to be dictated to.

This would be true if Floyd did not agree to the weight penalty clause. The only demand Floyd wanted was for both to get tested and that is what became the obstacle which it never should have been. The split was 50/50 and Manny had his demand met. And just to get specific and I will leave it at this..... it wasn't even about taking the test but rather about when he would know when they were coming. I know Floyd does and says a lot of things but one thing I am not going to fault him for is blocking this fight because it would have been done if Manny agreed to what he agreed to now. Case closed.. I'm out.

[Espada]

Roach like Pacquiao's fans doesn't seem too confident about this fight. He keeps saying how good Mayweather is and how Pacquiao has to be perfect.

he's not a crackhead like Mayweather Sr that keeps on belittleing boxers, so you're judgement is invalid

[aboutfkntime]

So tired of you Floyd fans bringing up so many things that had long happened in the past.. Why not just focus on this mega bout.. My god,, move on!

Pac-stains whine for 5 years, coward, ducker, blah blah.....

Fight gets made, and truths surface about why fight did not happen in 09'.

Pacstains " why bring up da past doe " ?

Unless you pointed out to the pacstains that they were being silly little children, you dont get to be selective about history.

BTW, what is the expiry date on " the past " ?

When does history expire and become irrelevant ?

Maybe I need to check your post history and find out how long ago you were carrying on with that coward/ducker rubbish..... most likely 1 day before the fight was announced.