Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Can't Follow Floyd and Walk Into Shots

[richardt]

The number of ways Floyd hindered the fight? Do you mean like how Floyd agreed to Pacquiao's ridiculous 10 million dollar over the contract weight penalty?

Oh yeah, I can totally see how Floyd agreeing to Pacquiao's RIDICULOUS demand hindered the fight from being made. :rolleyes

Only on Planet PacIdiot...

Stop playing dumb like one item above is the only thing that could make or break the fight over the years. Don't brand yourself as one of those airheads who think only one fighter is to blame. Not a good look. Do the words "I wont work with Arum" ring a bell? Do the words "I am on vacation" ring a bell? Do the words "He got JMM and Bradley problems" ring a bell? How about his "No PPV" statement when he called Pac. Both are to blame and too bad Hustler was a coward and didn't accept my proposal about a poll on who is to blame and came up with a lame excuse. Instead of just doing a poll about who was to blame or if both were to blame I can put up a poll with a full list of why each side could have hindered the fight instead and it would show the consensus among fans and experts is both were to blame. Now, who has some money to put up? The consensus would show exactly what I have said all along. Simple. That is how it stands.

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see you can't take this guy seriously.

I don't and never will expect Pacquiao fans on Boxingscene to have any kind of reading comprehension or logic.

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You have no problem point out Pac's charging for anything over the weight, yet you don't criticize Floyd for having to pay to come over the agreed on weight with JMM. You know you have a double standard and I know you have one. Polls about Floyd easily beating Pac? I believe he could and I believe he could KO Pac and I believe Pac could KO him or win a decision. I don't see either guy easily beating the other but it can happen because this is boxing. And no, you cant defend Floyd demanding Pac take a test that he has never demanded in the past. Who killed the fight? Neither, because it is happening. Who put blocks up, BOTH. But you suck the drool off of Mayweather's mouth when he says I wont do business with Arum and I am on vacation and Manny gets no PPV. Yes, I know, you cannot handle the truth but those are roadblocks, not arguable, not up for debate, just like the obstacles Pac put up. Feel free to live in denial all you want and you can shout off the rooftops your little hot-headed speals and venom for Pac but the fact is, both put roadblocks up. You can let your bias make you oblivious to reality all you want but that is not the real world.

Listen man..... the JMM fight was at a 144 catch weight NOT 147. Floyd never had any problem making 147 so a 10Mil weight penalty over 147 was uncalled for considering the night of the JMM fight Floyd weighed 146. Roach only asked for the stipulation because he thought Floyd was having trouble with making weight but failed to realize it was a 144lb catch weight like he failed to realize JMM fought Mayweather at 144 so that's why they underestimated JMM in the 3rd fight thinking he would lose the same way. Even Manny admitted underestimated JMM because he beat bigger guys at 147. It was nothing wrong or unheard of asking to take random blood tests. My proof is because now Pacquiao accepted it up to the fight when before it was 14 days so apparently it wasn't a road block. The only thing people blame Mayweather for was asking Pacquiao to take the test while Manny was the one who walked away. This is documented not how you see it.

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You said the fight would never Happen as long as Arum was involved well you were wrong then and you are wrong about only one fighter being to blame. Again, you just countered something a guy said that was 100% accurate. For YEARS you made that claim and you owned yourself with that one. On top of that really looked ridiculous actually trying to make a list of reasons why Arum blocked the fight according to you which does nothing to defend the fact that you said the fight would never happen with Arum involved. You probably dedicated 1 week worth of non-stop writing about how the fight would never happen because of Arum which is no surprise because you have been obsessed with him as your avatar clearly shows.

Man you are in denial so hard that it is embarrassing. Floyd said he would never work with Arum like Arum said he would never/or don't like to work with Mayweather. Floyd said he would never work with Arum way before the first Pacquiao negotiations started up until this time and both official negotiations Mayweather was there, so how is him saying this a road block when Floyd made the fight with Arum involved? A road block is Arum saying asking Manny to give blood was an insult or they need to build a stadium or Manny's cut needs 6 months to heal OR fighting on May 2nd is disrespect to Mexicans. And if it wasn't for Floyd and Manny actually meeting and talking then the fight would have probably never happened because Arum was lying according to his own team you JACK ASS. Sorry boxingscene but damn you guys are so dense in the head. Everything is right there in your faces but you refuse to see it because of some dislike for Mayweather. $#!t is g@y.

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Greasy grustler embarrassing himself again.

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Greasy grustler embarrassing himself again.

Yeah, I am totally embarrassing myself with the truth. Oh... how dare I (sarcasm).

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Yeah, I am totally embarrassing myself with the truth. Oh... how dare I (sarcasm).

No, you're embarrassing yourself with you're incessant flommage.

[Pony Boy]

Something tells me Floyd is going to try to jump on Pac right from the bell cause they believe Pac can't fight going backwards. I also think Floyd will try to control Pac's aggression with multiple fast jabs. Manny needs to move his heads, not stay on the line of fire and change levels. He also needs a more old school stance. I think Freddie has a plan to break clouds shell and if Floyd commits, we are all going to be surprised

[richardt]

Listen man..... the JMM fight was at a 144 catch weight NOT 147. Floyd never had any problem making 147 so a 10Mil weight penalty over 147 was uncalled for considering the night of the JMM fight Floyd weighed 146. Roach only asked for the stipulation because he thought Floyd was having trouble with making weight but failed to realize it was a 144lb catch weight like he failed to realize JMM fought Mayweather at 144 so that's why they underestimated JMM in the 3rd fight thinking he would lose the same way. Even Manny admitted underestimated JMM because he beat bigger guys at 147. It was nothing wrong or unheard of asking to take random blood tests. My proof is because now Pacquiao accepted it up to the fight when before it was 14 days so apparently it wasn't a road block. The only thing people blame Mayweather for was asking Pacquiao to take the test while Manny was the one who walked away. This is documented not how you see it.

They agreed to a weight and Floyd failed to make that weight and you slurp his jizz like it is manna from heaven and cannot even see the obstacles he put up. What is DOCUMENTED which you blindly fail to see is both have created blocks to the fight. If you weren't such an obsessive/compulsive looney toon, you would see that. Yes, history shows and will show that Floyd put up obstacles, a number of them. The masses have spoken over the years here and both are to blame. You're single opinion is blunted by the masses. You'll survive.

[richardt]

Man you are in denial so hard that it is embarrassing. Floyd said he would never work with Arum like Arum said he would never/or don't like to work with Mayweather. Floyd said he would never work with Arum way before the first Pacquiao negotiations started up until this time and both official negotiations Mayweather was there, so how is him saying this a road block when Floyd made the fight with Arum involved? A road block is Arum saying asking Manny to give blood was an insult or they need to build a stadium or Manny's cut needs 6 months to heal OR fighting on May 2nd is disrespect to Mexicans. And if it wasn't for Floyd and Manny actually meeting and talking then the fight would have probably never happened because Arum was lying according to his own team you JACK ASS. Sorry boxingscene but damn you guys are so dense in the head. Everything is right there in your faces but you refuse to see it because of some dislike for Mayweather. $#!t is g@y.

Whats embarrassing is your obsessive/compulsive looney toon attitude. Floyd said he would NOT work with Arum as recently as a year ago as well. Dude, you cant even hold a conversation without bringing up Arum which shows your obsessive/compulsive behavior right there! Both Pac and Floyd created obstacles OUTSIDE of Arum, Ellerbe, Haymon so for you to bring up Arum every single time shows that Arum loosened some screws in your head.

Floyd also said he was on vacation and not thinking about boxing. Floyd also said Pac got JMM and Bradley problems. Those are obstacles and now matter how you want to twist it, you cannot defend that. If you actually believe Floyd and Pac talking is THE reason why the fight was made, you are one gullible twit. If Arum did not want the fight, it doesn't matter if Pac and Floyd met every day for a month because Arum would not have made the fight if he did not want to! You spent YEARS telling everyone that as long as Arum was involved, there would be no fight. Dude, you OWNED yourself and pissed all over yourself with that one. You need to chill your a$$ out about Arum cause he has owned your soul.

And the way you keep addressing "Pac fans" or "Boxiongscene" in a conversation with me shows you clearly are emotionally unstable because I don't sit here in a conversation with you bringing up Floyd fans, I am talking to you! Not a fan base.