Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Can't Follow Floyd and Walk Into Shots

[elishua F]

The chances of Floyd actually stopping Pacquiao are very slim. Why will Pacquiao not be able to make this just as difficult for Floyd as Maidana did? What does Maidana have or do that Is better than Pacquiao? Just looking for answers to back up your comment. I am actually curious as to why people think that Pacquiao will not be competitive.

apply pressure, cut off the ring, inside fighting, jab, physically stronger than pac and if he has to can make things dirty.

pac doesn't know what a jab is, can't cut the ring, no inside fighting and will not be able to man handle floyd like chino did.

[arraamis]

The other problem is Floyd is way bigger so he gets to choose when to really throw because he has a much larger range, plus Floyd is better inside (which is one of Manny biggest issue in the whole fight and something they should work on most because Manny is offensive so he can pick that up quick perhaps).

If Manny had an equal range he could look to exchange like with JMM and that might work because it took JMM a long time to work that out. He doesn't though so he needs to hope he can out man Floyd totally and find his range a lot more than guys do against Floyd.

Very True!!!!!

All anyone has to do is to study what JMM did every time he fought Manny.

JMM rarely went after Manny as the aggressor, he always let Manny fight and do what comes naturally for a come forward fighter. JMM waited and waited for Manny to attack, then went after the openings that were exposed during the attack.

In that regard, Manny is very predictable!!!!

Still there are only a few that have both the skill and the discipline to weather a charging Manny Pacquiao. Of all the opponent fighters out there, only JMM was able to deflect what Manny was doing and also at the same time capitalize on the mistakes.

If Floyd adapts\adopts what JMM learned to do against Manny over the course of four fights, during his fight on May 2nd, then it is going to be a very difficult fight for Manny. Because Floyd is a better counter-puncher and tactician than JMM ...... which is something to really think about.

[arraamis]

He might and he might not. The key against Floyd is denying him the luxury of choosing his ground. Forcing him to back-pedal rather than allowing to move where and when he wants, and to set his traps in the process.

That's why the jab is generally regarded as so crucial against Floyd because it's the best weapon for doing just that.

But Maidana showed that you don't necessarily need a great jab to do this, the threat of a difficult to anticipate shot like Maidana's unorthodox overhand right was enough to get Floyd backing straight up.

So while Manny doesn't have the jab to control Floyd's movement, he does have the southpaw straight left which is a significant weapon against the philly shell. Combined with Manny's unusual rhythm and the speed and feints he brings to the table, it's probably enough to put Floyd on edge and exert some control over his movement, making it much harder for Floyd to fight at his own pace and set things up the way he would like.

In any case, I wouldn't pay any attention to anything Roach is saying about tactics or strategy. It's not like he's going to be revealing his real thoughts to whatever random media dude asks him a question.

I think you should write a letter to Roach and point some thing out for him.

Don't change what Manny is doing, correct the mistakes!!!!!!!

As you stated, if Manny can control his aggression and stop charging straight in, he has a better chance of causing problems because of his footwork. Have Manny attack from angles and keep the awkward pressure on.
!!!!! DO NOT TRY TO BOX FLOYD MAYWEATHER !!!!!

Manny has to be as awkward as is possible and change up how he attacks each and every round. Rd.1 attack laterally stressing the leads Rd.2 Attack in an in-and-out patten throwing hooks and overhands Rd.3 Combine what was done in rounds 1&2. Rd.4 Maintain distance and attack when Floyd relaxes.

Manny CANNOT FALL INTO A PATTERN AT ANYTIME DURING THIS FIGHT!!!!

[Dr Rumack]

Marquez and Floyd don't really fight like each other at all though. They both like to counter, but put one of each of their fights on split-screen right now and you will see next to no similarity in their styles. Their movement, their rhythm, theiir defence, the shots they throw, all very different.

Marquez also sticks and throws combinations in the pocket, almost always throwing bodyshots into the mix which is how he tended to set stuff up against Pacquiao. Floyd rarely does that, even against opponents who's power he doesn't really respect.

That's not to say Manny's discomfort in leading isn't relevant, just that the Marquez fights aren't all that good a guide for how this fight is likely to pan out.

[SkillspayBills]

3 rounds. It will take 3 rounds for Floyd to figure out everything he needs to beat up Pac.

[arraamis]

Marquez and Floyd don't really fight like each other at all though. They both like to counter, but put one of each of their fights on split-screen right now and you will see next to no similarity in their styles. Their movement, their rhythm, theiir defence, the shots they throw, all very different.

Marquez also sticks and throws combinations in the pocket, almost always throwing bodyshots into the mix which is how he tended to set stuff up against Pacquiao. Floyd rarely does that, even against opponents who's power he doesn't really respect.

That's not to say Manny's discomfort in leading isn't relevant, just that the Marquez fights aren't all that good a guide for how this fight is likely to pan out.

I agree, Floyd probably cannot adopt JMM's style, but he can take from what was working and apply a similar strategy.

[MrRolltide91]

That wasn't no one mistake.

That's just how manny fights.

[BIPBAP]

So Roach is admitting that manny needs to outthink floyd in order to win, which we know ain't gonna happen lol

[shishaw]

If you watched the fights of Manny, U'll see that he's been hit by that "JMM" counter right hand for I bet more than a thousand times against all sorts of opponent - especially the HOFs.. but for some reason that 1 JMM counter right sent Manny to another world. An Angel must have given him extraordinary-strength to do it.. XD

[Easy Work.]

So Roach is admitting that manny needs to outthink floyd in order to win, which we know ain't gonna happen lol

yeah lmao i think roach is just not confident