Are world titles being devalued in boxing today?

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  • silentscoper
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    Is this even a question that needs to be asked? Being World Champion used to mean you were at the peak of your weight class and recognizable as the best. You could carry that belt around and everyone would know you were the one and only champ. Now you can be champion of _____ for the _____ Organization of ____ and you can attain those belts by fighting the second best. A belt used to be the pinnacle of the sport, the highest you could achieve. Today it's just another item to throw on you before you walk to the ring.

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    • AliBombaye
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      #12
      They certainly will be once Haymon comes out with his PBC title.

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      • 48cantCstraight
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        #13
        They've been devalued ever since Baldomir won one

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #14
          Originally posted by silentscoper
          Is this even a question that needs to be asked? Being World Champion used to mean you were at the peak of your weight class and recognizable as the best. You could carry that belt around and everyone would know you were the one and only champ. Now you can be champion of _____ for the _____ Organization of ____ and you can attain those belts by fighting the second best. A belt used to be the pinnacle of the sport, the highest you could achieve. Today it's just another item to throw on you before you walk to the ring.
          being a contender use to mean something

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          • -Kev-
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            #15
            There's like more than 10 different ways per weight class that a fighter can officially call themselves a champion.

            The Ring Champion, Lineal Champion. Yes it is different than The Ring; there has been instances where a weight class has a Ring champ but recognizes another fighter as the Lineal champ. Example is 130lb Floyd after beating Hernandez, was the recognized Lineal champ, but The Ring did not recognize him as their 130 champion, instead it stayed vacant. The other way around, The Ring has recognized two 154 Ring champs after Winky Wright (Canelo, Mayweather), yet no one has won the Lineal title since Winky Wright.

            WBC, WBC Champion in Recess, WBC Diamond, WBC Silver, WBA Super, WBA Regular, IBF, WBO. All the Interim titles. The regional titles, NABF, EBU, etc.

            So yeah, there's your answer.

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            • -Kev-
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              #16
              Originally posted by cake_cake_cake
              They've been devalued ever since Baldomir won one
              Upsets happen man, it's boxing. At the time that Baldomir upset Judah, upsets were happening left and right at welterweight. The Ring title was exchanging hands every time it was defended against a new top 10 WW contender.

              Forrest beat Mosley for the vacant 147 Ring title and Mosley's WBC title and lost it after his rematch with Mosley. Mayorga upset TKO'ed Forrest in their first fight. Right after Mayorga was done winning his rematch with Vernon; Spinks upset Mayorga. Judah lost to Spinks and then beat Spinks for the Ring title in the rematch, and finally Baldomir upset Judah right after Judah defended it against a journeyman.

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              • Sweet Pea 50
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                #17
                Too much of everything.

                The sport is just too bogged down with shit.

                A good fight between two guys that are at the top of a division.

                The one guy holds the belt. The other guy isn't recognized by the other alphabet organizations.

                Cool.

                What's that you say? Not the only road block?

                Oh. Fighter A is signed with promotion X. Fighter B is signed with those other guys.

                What a minute.

                What about the other guy that is signed to another network as well? But the mandatory holds that other belt? Super-Deluxe? Royale wit Cheese?

                Why is that other guy even in the mix? He really isn't top flight.

                Because he fought and beat the other guy that was signed to promotion X. With a belt. That other guy lost to another guy, but is with the other network. And gets views. Somewhere. But has a belt.

                So purse bids?

                I guess.

                So I have to understand the whole bidness side of this ****ty fucking sport about guys punching each other in the fucking head to explain why the best don't fight the best, until the last fucking minute and 300 gajillion dollars are on the table?

                Pretty much.

                Awesome. Sign me up.

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                • Left Hook Tua
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  There's like more than 10 different ways per weight class that a fighter can officially call themselves a champion.

                  The Ring Champion, Lineal Champion. Yes it is different than The Ring; there has been instances where a weight class has a Ring champ but recognizes another fighter as the Lineal champ. Example is 130lb Floyd after beating Hernandez, was the recognized Lineal champ, but The Ring did not recognize him as their 130 champion, instead it stayed vacant. The other way around, The Ring has recognized two 154 Ring champs after Winky Wright (Canelo, Mayweather), yet no one has won the Lineal title since Winky Wright.

                  WBC, WBC Champion in Recess, WBC Diamond, WBC Silver, WBA Super, WBA Regular, IBF, WBO. All the Interim titles. The regional titles, NABF, EBU, etc.

                  So yeah, there's your answer.
                  ring is lineal.

                  it's just sometimes not consensus lineal.

                  problem comes when the lineage is broken and re-establishing it.

                  ring goes with their #1 vs #2.

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                  • Juof
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    The most devalued title is that 152 pound title Floyd won that made the 154 pound champ what a joke
                    What about pacquiaos wbc super duper ultimate platinum plated championship of the world he won against margs at 150

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                    • P4PLoser
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                      #20
                      I stopped taking it seriously when Paulie Malignaggi became a 147lbs 'World Champion'

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