"Krusher" Kovalev vs RJJ@ 168-175lbs/12-12.5 Stone. Who wins?

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  • Caught Square
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    #51
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran
    John Ruiz was a ****ing god damned bum. He chose the worse heavyweight champ there was and if there was no Johh Ruiz holding a belt he would never have gone to heavyweight.
    No one's saying Ruiz was Lennox Lewis in greatness. It would be wrong to act like Ruiz was amazing but still gotta put some perspective, the dude started at 154 and beat a solid heavyweight. Would Kovalev or Stevenson move up and beat Chagaev?

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      #52
      Originally posted by MarsinLeo
      LOL you obviously didn't follow Roy's career like that. Maybe you're not old enough. It's all good but you really shouldn't post ignorance just to make your point.

      At no point and time did Roy duck Nigel Benn or Dariusz Michalsweski. Period.

      Since we're in 2015, I'll use the 2015 lingo: Roy Jones was the A SIDE. Michalsweski was the C SIDE. Yet Michalsweski acted like he was the A SIDE. So the fight never happened.
      Nah wasn't around to see everything unfold but i've watched his fights. How can you deny that Roy's resume is dog **** compared to what it should have been? No Nunn, No Toney rematch, No Darius, No Eubank, No Benn, No Collins. There's an AWFUL lot of filler in Roy's record. Absolute dross lol

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        #53
        Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
        Call us when Kovalev goes up to HW and fights a John Ruiz-ish type of opponent...
        Lol yeah you beat me to it, plus Kovalev started at 175.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Caught Square
          No one's saying Ruiz was Lennox Lewis in greatness. It would be wrong to act like Ruiz was amazing but still gotta put some perspective, the dude started at 154 and beat a solid heavyweight. Would Kovalev or Stevenson move up and beat Chagaev?
          I see Kovalev moving up and being Cruiserweight champ. I also see Kovalev boxing the **** out of Donkey Wilder with relative ease.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Call us when Kovalev goes up to HW and fights a John Ruiz-ish type of opponent...
            Hey FightDoctor, I would like your opinion on my Michael Nunn/James Toney/ Mayweather thread:

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              #56
              Originally posted by Pac=Duran
              I see Kovalev moving up and being Cruiserweight champ. I also see Kovalev boxing the **** out of Donkey Wilder with relative ease.
              Lol well as we don't know for sure if he would win but the point is Kovalev don't look like he will ever move up to heavyweight to see if we can find out AND he started at 175 rather than 154.

              By no means do I expect Kovalev to move up to heavyweight or even cruiserweight but if your gonna criticise Roy's heavyweight opponent it's worth at least considering Kovalev doing the same.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Caught Square
                Lol well as we don't know for sure if he would win but the point is Kovalev don't look like he will ever move up to heavyweight to see if we can find out AND he started at 175 rather than 154.

                By no means do I expect Kovalev to move up to heavyweight or even cruiserweight but if your gonna criticise Roy's heavyweight opponent it's worth at least considering Kovalev doing the same.
                Kovalev vs John Ruis who wins?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Pac=Duran
                  He dined off that TOney win for the majority of his career though. There were a **** load of great great SMW's and LHWTS from Europe and America that he didn't even look at, and fought the Richard Hall's of this world > Cab Driver
                  this comment alone shows youre just trolling


                  Eubanks made it clear he wanted no parts of Jones and Benn lost his title to the same thulani Malinga that Jones sparked out prior.....learn your boxing history bro


                  there was a point when Jones was ring champ at 175 and he held wins over 7/10 contenders...he wasn't avoiding anybody...besides Wlad, Chocolatito and Floyd this era no one is fighting that Manny world ranked guys back to back


                  the same so called bums you say he fought, Michalcewski fought them too...he fought Richard hall twice, griffin after Jones knocked him out..Derrick Harmon after Jones beat him

                  DM did beat him a few months prior but Jones knocked him out for the first time in his illustrious career

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                    #59
                    Impossible to say. We never saw a prime Roy against anyone as big, strong and good as Kovalev and we've obviously never seen Kovalev against anyone like Jones.

                    I think Kovalev is a true Cruiserweight and sure Jones went up to fight Ruiz at heavy but that was Ruiz, who kinda ****** and had a different kind of skill set and style.

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                      #60
                      SK by KO....

                      I don't care what version of Roy it is. He gets KO'ed. What we didn't know about Roy back then, was that he couldn't take a punch. Against A Level fighters, you WILL get hit. You all act as if Roy is an ATG. He's not. He's a HOF'mer whose resume is suspect. You guys overrate Roy. You overrate Hopkins. You overrate Floyd. Guess what? I won't play that game. I call things like I see them. SK is too smart to be pot-shotted by Roy for 12 rounds. Roy has NEVER fought a pressure fighter like SK. What he did to Hopkin's was not a fluke because of Hopkin's age. Hopkin's has the upmost respect for him too. He would knock Roy COLD!

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