Where does the concern of Usada Vs Vada come from?

[bmud reggin]

USADA is a joke

VADA is the only testing agency that has caught dirty fighters, USADA is in Haymons pocket. Memo Heredia and Conte have stated that you have you be an idiot to be caught by USADA, that's why Haymon fighters/Floyd use it.
Explained in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJdEbUMbks

[Deevel916]

It all boils down to how each entity test their samples and how they handle a dirty sample.

Vada test for things USADA does not hence why VADA has caught more then USADA and have test less fighter todate then USADA.

VADA report failed drug test to the Boxing commission.
USADA report failed drug test to the Promoter/Boxer who hired them.

VADA does not allow a doctors note
USADA allows doctors note
(which basically mean you can exceed the legal ratio for banned substance if you have a doctors note saying you taking it)

This is why Erik Morales failed a drug test 1 month pior and no one knew about it till it leaked, USADA tested Morales and he failed and USADA reported the failed drug test to GBP and GBP tried to hide it and keep it under wraps till that information got leaked. The Boxing Commission had no Knowledge of Morales Failed Drug Test. So GBP was gonna keep it quiet and let the fight go on(it did anyways) and not report the Failed Drug Test to anyone.

Same thing happened with Quillen and Winky, Quillen failed USADA drug test but since USADA doesnt report the failed test to the boxing commission but instead to the promoter and in this case GBP, GBP just scrapped the entire drug test and order USADA to destroy the samples. Fight went on and Quillen escaped a failed drug test.

VADA reports the failed drug test to the boxing commission directly, This is why GBP, TMT do not like to work with VADA and have blackballed VADA. A fall out happened with GBP and VADA over how they report the failed drug test, they wanted VADA to report it to them only but thats is not how VADA works.

That is the difference.

Broken down perfectly.

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[megadeth]

"But you're only against it because Floyd uses it", lol.

This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead.

[CANELOLUJAH]

This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead.

what does any of this have to do with the thread? lol

[Ray*]

Well just wait for their excuses (Reasons), first they would claim USADA "Destroy" samples taken from boxers, or they would claim VADA catches more people, or they would claim CIR is not been used as part of the testing procedure at USADA or they help Mayweather when he "failed" 3 tests, and those info are provided by a "Well known" journalist so his credibility cannot be questioned.

But looking at it without our rose tinted glasses? There is no problem with either testing agencies because both are out there testing randomly. Most fan boys would argue against that doe.

[Ray*]

This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead.

Well WADA are USADA so those people are idiots.

[DoubleMM]

if pacman were to test dirty, these same people would claim it's a set up. they're metnally ill people, or just trolls.

[DARKSEID]

List of Athletes who used PEDs long term and got away with it while being tested by USADA:

Lance Armstrong
Marion Jones
Duane Ross
Crystal Cox
Joseph Papp
Philip Zajicek


The list goes on. This is just my own independent research of people who got caught by confession or investigation- not by drug testing. I don't have time to look up every single name, but you should get the gist.

Lance Armstrong even said that every top cyclist that he competed with was using Performance enhancing drugs and he got singled out because of his fame. Who tests professional cycling? USADA.

List of Athletes who cheated VADA and Got away with it:

Nobody

[DARKSEID]

It all boils down to how each entity test their samples and how they handle a dirty sample.

Vada test for things USADA does not hence why VADA has caught more then USADA and have test less fighter todate then USADA.

VADA report failed drug test to the Boxing commission.
USADA report failed drug test to the Promoter/Boxer who hired them.

VADA does not allow a doctors note
USADA allows doctors note
(which basically mean you can exceed the legal ratio for banned substance if you have a doctors note saying you taking it)

This is why Erik Morales failed a drug test 1 month pior and no one knew about it till it leaked, USADA tested Morales and he failed and USADA reported the failed drug test to GBP and GBP tried to hide it and keep it under wraps till that information got leaked. The Boxing Commission had no Knowledge of Morales Failed Drug Test. So GBP was gonna keep it quiet and let the fight go on(it did anyways) and not report the Failed Drug Test to anyone.

Same thing happened with Quillen and Winky, Quillen failed USADA drug test but since USADA doesnt report the failed test to the boxing commission but instead to the promoter and in this case GBP, GBP just scrapped the entire drug test and order USADA to destroy the samples. Fight went on and Quillen escaped a failed drug test.

VADA reports the failed drug test to the boxing commission directly, This is why GBP, TMT do not like to work with VADA and have blackballed VADA. A fall out happened with GBP and VADA over how they report the failed drug test, they wanted VADA to report it to them only but thats is not how VADA works.

That is the difference.

School these mother****ers homes

[monkeyboy]

Boom. That's pretty conclusive. I knew nothing about this before but that seems pretty clear and simple.