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  • #11
    Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
    Couldn't disagree more, allow PED's? That will just result in higher rates of brain damage and fatalities. These guys are hitting each other with padded gloves, it's brutal enough without PED's.
    my guess is the people who want PED's allowed are either grumpy old men who want to see the world burn or feeble weaklings who spend their lives behind a monitor

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    • #12
      It started when alot of GBP/Al Haymon fighters started failing VADA tests which made Richard Shaefer demand that they were no longer going to use VADA

      Then Thomas Hauser wrote an article about how USADA was only testing 1 fighter in a fight, throwing out samples and covering up 3 tests that Floyd failed

      USADA is shady

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      • #13
        When one entity is throwing out tests, iit's shady.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
          my guess is the people who want PED's allowed are either grumpy old men who want to see the world burn or feeble weaklings who spend their lives behind a monitor
          My gues is that you sir are a ******

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          • #15
            99.9% of it is CHILDISH IGNORANCE to be honest

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            • #16
              Vada>USADA

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                It started when alot of GBP/Al Haymon fighters started failing VADA tests which made Richard Shaefer demand that they were no longer going to use VADA

                Then Thomas Hauser wrote an article about how USADA was only testing 1 fighter in a fight, throwing out samples and covering up 3 tests that Floyd failed

                USADA is shady
                Umm, no it didn't. It started in the first negotiations when Floyd wanted USADA and Arum's confused azz wanted WADA testing. Right then Pac fans jumped on the we hate USADA bandwagon and sided with Arum to use WADA not knowing that WADA doesn't test or that they use USADA for the testing of US athletes. Once VADA came on the scene then they became the new best option for Pac fans, because it wasn't what Floyd wanted. Stop trying act like there is a rational reason for this dislike of USADA by changing history.

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                • #18
                  Let them just Ped and juice.

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                  • #19
                    It all boils down to how each entity test their samples and how they handle a dirty sample.

                    Vada test for things USADA does not hence why VADA has caught more then USADA and have test less fighter todate then USADA.

                    VADA report failed drug test to the Boxing commission.
                    USADA report failed drug test to the Promoter/Boxer who hired them.

                    VADA does not allow a doctors note
                    USADA allows doctors note
                    (which basically mean you can exceed the legal ratio for banned substance if you have a doctors note saying you taking it)

                    This is why Erik Morales failed a drug test 1 month pior and no one knew about it till it leaked, USADA tested Morales and he failed and USADA reported the failed drug test to GBP and GBP tried to hide it and keep it under wraps till that information got leaked. The Boxing Commission had no Knowledge of Morales Failed Drug Test. So GBP was gonna keep it quiet and let the fight go on(it did anyways) and not report the Failed Drug Test to anyone.

                    Same thing happened with Quillen and Winky, Quillen failed USADA drug test but since USADA doesnt report the failed test to the boxing commission but instead to the promoter and in this case GBP, GBP just scrapped the entire drug test and order USADA to destroy the samples. Fight went on and Quillen escaped a failed drug test.

                    VADA reports the failed drug test to the boxing commission directly, This is why GBP, TMT do not like to work with VADA and have blackballed VADA. A fall out happened with GBP and VADA over how they report the failed drug test, they wanted VADA to report it to them only but thats is not how VADA works.

                    That is the difference.
                    Last edited by CANELOLUJAH; 03-14-2015, 10:48 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by D-Checc View Post
                      It all boils down to how each entity test their samples and how they handle a dirty sample.

                      Vada test for things USADA does not hence why VADA has caught more then USADA and have test less fighter todate then USADA.

                      VADA report failed drug test to the Boxing commission.
                      USADA report failed drug test to the Promoter/Boxer who hired them.

                      VADA does not allow a doctors note
                      USADA allows doctors note
                      (which basically mean you can exceed the legal ratio for banned substance if you have a doctors note saying you taking it)

                      This is why Erik Morales failed a drug test 1 month pior and no one knew about it till it leaked, USADA tested Morales and he failed and USADA reported the failed drug test to GBP and GBP tried to hide it and keep it under wraps till that information got leaked. The Boxing Commission had no Knowledge of Morales Failed Drug Test. So GBP was gonna keep it quiet and let the fight go on(it did anyways) and not report the Failed Drug Test to anyone.

                      Same thing happened with Quillen and Winky, Quillen failed USADA drug test but since USADA doesnt report the failed test to the boxing commission but instead to the promoter and in this case GBP, GBP just scrapped the entire drug test and order USADA to destroy the samples. Fight went on and Quillen escaped a failed drug test.

                      VADA reports the failed drug test to the boxing commission directly, This is why GBP, TMT do not like to work with VADA and have blackballed VADA. A fall out happened with GBP and VADA over how they report the failed drug test, they wanted VADA to report it to them only but thats is not how VADA works.

                      That is the difference.
                      "But you're only against it because Floyd uses it", lol.

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