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  • GRUSTLER
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    #131
    Originally posted by ADP02
    While out of context, you brought up Roach and what he stated. So if you brought up that quote, I just gave you another one that is more recent and what Roach said about the future May 2nd fight, not something that we will never know now.

    Roach is quite confident.
    Roach was also confident going into Marquez 3 and 4.

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      #132
      Originally posted by mneronava2k
      Pac is going to feel very comfortable with it, and May has been brittle fisted for years. Don't be a fanboy, kept it real.

      Manny is going relish in May coming towards him. In order to win May is going to have to come towards him, or baits manny into winnable spats. He can't fight with Manny. Mannys workrate and speed is going to make this a pretty clear cut fight. Mannys flashy, excessive and reckless combos dazzle the judges (ask Marquez). I don't see May out working manny. And, again he doesn't have the power to make manny all of a sudden gun shy.

      Do you guys really think May has more pop than Rios, Marquez, or even Bradley at this point?
      Mayweather made Mosley, Canelo and Maidana at times in the second fight gun shy but he can't do it to Manny? Floyd is going to treat Manny like the smaller fighter that he is. Manny is not an aggressive fighter and doesn't apply pressure. Floyd will have time to time him as Pacquiao comes in lunging. I don't understand people saying Mayweather can't handle Pacquiao's speed but Marquez and Bradley did. Mayweather is also fast and accurate. I believe he will nullify Manny's aggression with well place shots. Obly way Manny has success is if Floyd lays on the ropes and lets Manny get off.

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        #133
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Manny won #3 and was winning #4 ..... it was one punch. It happens.
        Manny don't even believe he won the 3rd fight and neither did a lot of his fans who he had to say if they didn't say he won, that they weren't Pinoys.
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-13-2015, 11:46 AM.

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        • HeGotPacProblem
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          #134
          Originally posted by T.M.T
          and when that back fires the pacman will get walked down. he can't fight going backwards. mayweather will win this fight by U.D. or late stoppage. guaranteed
          I know it must sound good and macho posting online that your boxer is going to walk someone down th e fight but that would be ****** on Floyd's part

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          • HeGotPacProblem
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            #135
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Mayweather made Mosley, Canelo and Maidana at times in the second fight gun shy but he can't do it to Manny? Floyd is going to treat Manny like the smaller fighter that he is. Manny is not an aggressive fighter and doesn't apply pressure. Floyd will have time to time him as Pacquiao comes in lunging. I don't understand people saying Mayweather can't handle Pacquiao's speed but Marquez and Bradley did. Mayweather is also fast and accurate. I believe he will nullify Manny's aggression with well place shots. Obly way Manny has success is if Floyd lays on the ropes and lets Manny get off.
            Show me a fight where Manny was gunshy. This guy boxes like he will die in the ring unlike some boxers. Even when is winning the fight easily he is still going after it in the later rounds rather than dance around the ring.
            Last edited by HeGotPacProblem; 03-13-2015, 11:53 AM.

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            • HookequalsKO
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              #136
              It doesn't matter what Roach says they should do. Manny will bounce around like he always does and get timed. He'll get timed the first round and the whole fight

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              • ADP02
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                #137
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Manny don't even believe he won the 3rd fight and neither did a lot of his fans who he had to say if they didn't say he won, that they weren't Pinoys.
                So I guess you are confirming that Castillo 1 and Maidana 1 won the first fight because they had a second fight and because most people think so or I heard people say so?


                You are also generalizing your statement based on something you read. Everyone that I spoke to do not even see any controversy in fight #3. It was just Marquez being Marquez (thinks he beat Bradley too) and you all fall for that for different reasons. If that was a fight with Floyd, you would have said differently. You can 't even get yourself to say that Castillo won, right?



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                Last edited by ADP02; 03-13-2015, 01:34 PM.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                  Show me a fight where Manny was gunshy. This guy boxes like he will die in the ring unlike some boxers. Even when is winning the fight easily he is still going after it in the later rounds rather than dance around the ring.
                  3rd Pacquiao/Marquez he was a lil leary. 2nd Marquez fight he was a lil hesitant at times also. He needs his opponents to be aggressive to be the most effective. When an opponent sits back and waits for him to make a move he does not throw punches immediately. Pacquiao is a punching machine but he can be nullified with a jab and some body work.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    So I guess you are confirming that Castillo 1 and Maidana 1 won the first fight because they had a second fight and because most people think so or I heard people say so?


                    You are also generalizing your statement based on something you read. Everyone that I spoke to do not even see any controversy in fight #3. It was just Marquez being Marquez (thinks he beat Bradley too) and you all fall for that for different reasons. If that was a fight with Floyd, you would have said differently. You can 't even get yourself to say that Castillo won, right?



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                    There is an argument for Castillo 1 but Maidana 1? Close but Floyd still edged it. In the 3rd Marquez fight when Pacquiao was announced the winner people threw bottles at him in the ring. There's an article about it....

                    “Magpakatotoo ka…maging Filipino ka (Be true to yourself…be a Filipino).”

                    This was boxing idol Manny Pacquiao’s message to his Filipino critics, especially those who rooted for Mexican fighter Juan Manuel Marquez during their bout in Las Vegas which resulted in a controversial finish.
                    “Doon sa mga i**** tao na naniniwala na di tama yung desisyon eh, magpakatotoo ka…maging Filipino ka (To those who believe that the decision was wrong, be true to yourself, be a Filipino),” he added.
                    Read more: http://sports.inquirer.net/26305/man...#ixzz3UIwQNZ4m
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                    • ADP02
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      There is an argument for Castillo 1 but Maidana 1? Close but Floyd still edged it. In the 3rd Marquez fight when Pacquiao was announced the winner people threw bottles at him in the ring. There's an article about it....


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                      There was more than just an article that Floyd lost to Castillo. HBO commentators were declaring that he lost in the final minute of the fight. That was how convinced they were. Including their resident judge Lederman.

                      At the fight, there were many Marquez fans. They were the ones who threw bottles ...... so thanks for the laugh.


                      As for the Maidana 1 fight, it was closer in my eyes than the Marquez #3 fight. One judge agreed by giving it a draw. Not sure how the other 2 judges gave the early rounds to Floyd. That didn't make any sense.

                      Honestly, Marquez #3 was easy to score. Marquez lost it in the championship rounds where he was told to take no risks ..... bad move.

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