Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux's Manager Petitions For Quigg Mandatory

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I tend to go with the transitional boxing board rankings-they have him at #1. but for purposes of this thread I am only using your arguments from the past year or so.

If you didn't have to, you wouldn't. But this is NSB, so you knew it would attract the el Blanco's, gong's and other low intellect types like that.

Nothing I've posted absolves LSC for not fighting Rigo. I pointed his fear out several times in other threads. Of course you were busy going back and forth with whining when anyone mentioned Frampton/quigg to notice.

Whenever you can't win a debate on the merits you do the usual-Haymon, *********s, Floyd ****, etcetc.

Meanwhile, the #1 guy isn't fighting the champion and is making an inferior fight that is nothing more than a regional eliminator.

That's the only thing this is about, not Haymon, not you, not saving LSC from criticism. Of course you really know that, but that hurts a little too much, so you try to deflect.

I'm not trying to deflect anything Dunn. I will always support a fighter choosing to take the biggest fight available to him.

You support that only if a fighter is signed to Haymon. If not, you're suddenly about "the best fighting the best".

My posts for the past year about Frampton have been consistent and accurate. I said he'd win the title, face his mandatory and then face Quigg with Rigondeaux to come after. It's playing out perfectly.

I'll enjoy it and you can keep pretending that you actually care about this division when everyone can see it's just a defence tactic for a Haymon fighter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Rigondeaux established himself as the clear top guy when he beat Donaire.

It's up for debate who is the number 1 challenger to him. Frampton, Quigg and Santa Cruz should be fighting each other to determine that.

It's a shame only two of them are willing to do that.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not trying to deflect anything Dunn. I will always support a fighter choosing to take the biggest fight available to him.

You support that only if a fighter is signed to Haymon. If not, you're suddenly about "the best fighting the best".

My posts for the past year about Frampton have been consistent and accurate. I said he'd win the title, face his mandatory and then face Quigg with Rigondeaux to come after. It's playing out perfectly.

I'll enjoy it and you can keep pretending that you actually care about this division when everyone can see it's just a defence tactic for a Haymon fighter.

In no way am I questioning anything you've said about Frampton. SO why you keep mentioning it makes no sense.

Again, my posts show this point to be completely untrue. Yet again, bring up Haymon to deflect from the points about Quigg/ Frampton not fighting Rigo. Whenever anyone mentions it you do the same thing- "LSC isn't fighting him either".

We all know this and have killed him to varying degrees, some more, some less. Then when we get to quigg/Frampton we all do same-except you.

Then its hey they have a huge money fight (a fight that isn't signed yet and is not guaranteed as of now) and Haymon or anyone of the myriad of deflection tactics you've employed in this thread and others on the subject.

You are incapable of sticking to the merits because if you did you'd be in the same place most almost everyone else is-fight Rigo now while Frampton is #1, don't risk losing to quigg, who will then likely fight someone else instead.

The money will always be there given the dynamics of this fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Rigondeaux established himself as the clear top guy when he beat Donaire.

It's up for debate who is the number 1 challenger to him. Frampton, Quigg and Santa Cruz should be fighting each other to determine that.

It's a shame only two of them are willing to do that.

so now you are not sure Frampton is #1 in the division. That is a drastic change from things you have been saying the past year.

I guess being ranked #1 and beating the best opponent out of the guys ranked 1-3 makes it more difficult than before frampton beat him.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

so now you are not sure Frampton is #1 in the division. That is a drastic change from things you have been saying the past year.

I guess being ranked #1 and beating the best opponent out of the guys ranked 1-3 makes it more difficult than before frampton beat him.

Actually it's not. I obviously think Frampton is better than Quigg and Santa Cruz but that's my opinion. It hasn't been proven in the ring. The only thing that has been established is Rigo's place as the King of the division after he schooled Donaire.

At least two of the three below him are willing to make themselves stand out from the pack.

[-PBP-]

Rigondeaux established himself as the clear top guy when he beat Donaire.

It's up for debate who is the number 1 challenger to him. Frampton, Quigg and Santa Cruz should be fighting each other to determine that.

It's a shame only two of them are willing to do that.

Donaire is just one win. You can say Cotto and Stevenson established themselves as the top guys in their divisions with that logic.

Rigo needs to prove himself by beating fighters in the top 3 but none of them will fight him. It should be a tournament involving Rigo.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Donaire is just one win. You can say Cotto and Stevenson established themselves as the top guys in their divisions with that logic.

Rigo needs to prove himself by beating fighters in the top 3 but none of them will fight him. It should be a tournament involving Rigo.

The difference is that Golovkin has clearly established himself as the number 1 challenger to the middleweight title as has Kovalev to Stevenson. There's no debate there

Santa Cruz, Frampton and Quigg haven't done that. 2 of the 3 are willing to duke it out to establish themselves as Rigo's main challenger.

Dunn's moustached toyboy isn't unfortunately.

[The Big Dunn]

Actually it's not. I obviously think Frampton is better than Quigg and Santa Cruz but that's my opinion. It hasn't been proven in the ring. The only thing that has been established is Rigo's place as the King of the division after he schooled Donaire.

At least two of the three below him are willing to make themselves stand out from the pack.

Huh? you have been saying Frampton is #1 for some time. It's shocking to see this from you.

Well if Frampton is no longer #1 anymore then we can have him and quigg fight. LSC is #1 and he can take the more lucrative fights rather than the best fight against Rigo, since you have no problem with that.

Glad we could come to an agreement.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Huh? you have been saying Frampton is #1 for some time. It's shocking to see this from you.

Well if Frampton is no longer #1 anymore then we can have him and quigg fight. LSC is #1 and he can take the more lucrative fights rather than the best fight against Rigo, since you have no problem with that.

Glad we could come to an agreement.

What part of "that's my opinion but it hasn't been proven in the ring" didn't you understand?

Leo Santa Cruz isn't taking the more lucrative fights though Dunn. I wouldn't have an issue if he was. He turned down the 3 most lucrative fights in his division to fight janitors for less money.

"IT'S DA SAME DOE!"

[BattleAxePurist]

Ill-advised move let Frampton/Quigg fight then go after the winner what would stop him from just dropping the belt and being able to fight for the IBF then you would lose a possibly bigger fight against the winner.