Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Had To Face Marquez Once, Not 4 Times

[bigjavi973]

Marquez on a Floyd rematch:

"I don't want to fight him again because everyone saw what happened in 2009 and I think it's better if he goes his way and I go mine."

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-wants-no-part-mayweather-talks-memo--65249

i didn't hear nothing about the weight. if it was really the weight issue he would say "i've grown into a welterweight body ,ill beat him now" something along those lines.

Marquez simply acknowledges he was schooled. But i guess the tards know better.

What was marquez weight in his 3 following fights?

[The Big Dunn]

ok cool... im not talking about the toothache... thats late 06/early 07.... im talking about late 2009... This was BEFORE ANY fight was made (with berto if thats the one you are referring to). Floyd announced his fight with JMM on may 2, 2009. Andre Berto just finished fighting Juan Urango on may 30th, 2009. Mosley just beat plasterito on january 2009. So if floyd already announced his fight with JMM on may 2nd, which was "confirmed". How can mosley have a fight "lined up"?

ok. I guess Mosley had just fought. my mistake. I don't know when the JMM fight was announced, but it doesn't look like Mosley was available since he just fought.

But we know why Floyd fought JMM in his comeback-he was #2 p4p and everyone was comparing pac to Floyd.

[bigjavi973]

I agree that styles make fights but what is interesting is that you Manny fans don't really use that logic when it comes to Floyd v. Manny. You use the styles make fights rule when it comes to Floyd v Marquez or Manny v. Marquez or Manny versus anyone else but not when it comes to Floyd against Manny.

If you guys admit that the reason Manny struggled against Marquez is because Marquez is a counter puncher and the reason why Manny dominated other opponents is because they were aggressive. What makes you think Manny can beat a bigger, faster, counter puncher in Mayweather?

If Floyd's size, speed, and style made for a terrible matchup for Marquez what makes you think it won't be a terrible matchup for Manny, Someone who is known to struggle with counter punching?

So JMM and Floyd fight "the same way"... since you know... they are both counterpunchers as you stated?

[TheWinners]

Although JMM and Floyd are both counterpunchers, they are 2 totally different fighters.

JMM walked thru hell and back to land those punches he did on Pac. He took risks that Floyd will never take. You cant beat Pac being a passive counterpuncher. You have to bring it to him while he's bringing it to you. The question is, will Floyd bring it or will he play it safe?

From my observation Marquez is the one always backing up trying to counter Pacquiao. With Manny being the more aggressive puncher of the two. So Im not getting why you think Marquez had to walk through punches. How so if Pacquiao is coming forward?

Next even if what you assume is correct. That Marquez had to take a risk to land those punches, did you take into account reach? Did you take into account speed? Did you take into account that Floyd throws lots of straight right hands and then moves out of the danger zone? While Marquez threw lots of slow looping hooks and overhand rights?

Im not understanding how this guy had this much problems with a slower and smaller counter puncher. But he's not going to have as much problems with a longer and faster counter puncher. It just sounds like it gets worse for him. It sounds like if he is the aggressor then Mayweather can time him and land right hands and stay out of the danger zone. Unlike Marquez who is slower and has smaller reach. It sounds like the worst kind of fighter Pacqiuao could face.

[bigjavi973]

ok. I guess Mosley had just fought. my mistake. I don't know when the JMM fight was announced, but it doesn't look like Mosley was available since he just fought.

But we know why Floyd fought JMM in his comeback-he was #2 p4p and everyone was comparing pac to Floyd.

The fight was announced the first week of may 2009 to fight JMM... For september!!! Its a positive that mosley would have been able to fight in june.

I don't care who was p4p whatever.... mosley at that time was the number 1 welterweight after beating plasterito. A lightweight who was "p4p #2" or the reigning WW concensus number 1, who also happened to have a title. Who would you fight and be honest with yourself.

[megadeth]

Although JMM and Floyd are both counterpunchers, they are 2 totally different fighters.

JMM walked thru hell and back to land those punches he did on Pac. He took risks that Floyd will never take. You cant beat Pac being a passive counterpuncher. You have to bring it to him while he's bringing it to you. The question is, will Floyd bring it or will he play it safe?

Floyd can and is able to do whatever it takes to win.

[TheWinners]

Here is another big problem for Pacquiao. I think Mayweather will be too comfortable in the ring. Pacquiao doesn't rough guys up against the ropes. He doesn't fight dirty or try to hold and hit. He likes to move, throw combinations, etc. All of the guys Mayweather fought his last 3 fights tried to make it an ugly fight which was to their advantage. Because you won't outbox Mayweather. It's not going to happen. He's a dominant out fighter. You're not going to beat Mayweather trying to box from the outside. Even if you're the aggressor you have to try and rough him up. If you don't he's going to avoid your punches. Maidana throwing all that wild **** was the best chance he had. He's going into this fight with a punchers chance. That's it. Because he just doesn't have enough advantages in the fight.

[The Big Dunn]

The fight was announced the first week of may 2009 to fight JMM... For september!!! Its a positive that mosley would have been able to fight in june.

I don't care who was p4p whatever.... mosley at that time was the number 1 welterweight after beating plasterito. A lightweight who was "p4p #2" or the reigning WW concensus number 1, who also happened to have a title. Who would you fight and be honest with yourself.

When was the Berto/Mosley fight announced?

I get your point. My point is he came back after 2 years and fought a guy who gave the guy people said was his rival a tough time.

I don't see the issue in not fighting Mosley in the comeback fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

The fight was announced the first week of may 2009 to fight JMM... For september!!! Its a positive that mosley would have been able to fight in june.

I don't care who was p4p whatever.... mosley at that time was the number 1 welterweight after beating plasterito. A lightweight who was "p4p #2" or the reigning WW concensus number 1, who also happened to have a title. Who would you fight and be honest with yourself.

The Mosley-Margarito winner was supposed to be fighting Pacquiao but Pacquiao decided he didn't want to fight Mosley.

[Arshad221]

The Mosley-Margarito winner was supposed to be fighting Pacquiao but Pacquiao decided he didn't want to fight Mosley.

Get ready for the javi twist idk why he defends PAC so much after how he did cotto amazes me