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  • SugarRaRobinson
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    #11
    Originally posted by NaijaD
    Seriously man stop it, everyone wants to cry roids when there's a puncher on the loose. Why not cry roids when someone is really fast or throws 1000 punches for the first time or suddenly shows improved durability.
    Another Kool Aid drinker I see . Kalzage would batter his opponents with more punches per round than most but I never cried foul with him . I don't have any problems with punchers on the loose because historically there always are and always will be punchers in the game . What does concern me is the historical anomalies occurring . KO after KO by way of body shot every other fight or so is a historical milestone . And since history is the only gauge by which we have to measure the present , we should all be a bit circumspect

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    • SugarRaRobinson
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      #12
      So let me this one more time ; Does anyone on this site besides me realize how much harder u have to be hitting people , amongst ur contemporaries, to have approx 50% of ur KO's coming by way of body shots ? Historically it's never been even close to being reached !

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        #13
        Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
        Pascals a fool for not contractually adding Olympic style drug testing in this fight . Anyone who knocks out approx half of his opponents by way of body shots = UnFuc....believable !
        The Juice is loose .
        what about pascal lifting and squatting with massive amount of weight

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          #14
          Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
          So let me this one more time ; Does anyone on this site besides me realize how much harder u have to be hitting people , amongst ur contemporaries, to have approx 50% of ur KO's coming by way of body shots ? Historically it's never been even close to being reached !
          You either don't watch his fights or, and i hate the term, youre being a hater. If you notice fighters from that region are schooled on pin point accuracy. Loma, ggg, beterbiev, khrytov, kovalev, etc. they all place their punches perfectly. If Loma had power he'd be blowing guys away as well. Punch placement plus power gets the results you're seeing. If it was only peds every guy who's been caught would have been destroying guys, they're not.

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            #15
            Originally posted by nacho daddy
            what about pascal lifting and squatting with massive amount of weight
            I really don't cry foul that easily Nacho , it has to translate in the ring . Pascal is a solid fighter but nothing he's done in the ring is outlandishly freakish to the extent that would have me raising my red flag . And there is NOTHING he's done in the ring that's a histories anomaly

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            • SugarRaRobinson
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              #16
              Originally posted by El-blanco
              You either don't watch his fights or, and i hate the term, youre being a hater. If you notice fighters from that region are schooled on pin point accuracy. Loma, ggg, beterbiev, khrytov, kovalev, etc. they all place their punches perfectly. If Loma had power he'd be blowing guys away as well. Punch placement plus power gets the results you're seeing. If it was only peds every guy who's been caught would have been destroying guys, they're not.
              R u really attributing their KO body shot percentage to the accuracy of their body shots ??? This is so silly that I wasn't even gonna respond to it . Body shots are body shots period ! The only body shots that have more distinction is the oblique / kidney area shots , which GGG seems to purposely aim for most of the time . Kovalev's body shot are primarily straight frontal shot but they go down just as easily from them . Guerrero was getting battered to the body with clean , crippling body shots and started dropping his guards to protect his body , but Thurman still couldn't manage to get a KO by way of a body shot because its a VERY difficult feat . Attributing the accuracy of Kovalev's body shots to his historically high body KO percentage is really ridiculous

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                #17
                Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                R u really attributing their KO body shot percentage to the accuracy of their body shots ??? This is so silly that I wasn't even gonna respond to it . Body shots are body shots period ! The only body shots that have more distinction is the oblique / kidney area shots , which GGG seems to purposely aim for most of the time . Kovalev's body shot are primarily straight frontal shot but they go down just as easily from them . Guerrero was getting battered to the body with clean , crippling body shots and started dropping his guards to protect his body , but Thurman still couldn't manage to get a KO by way of a body shot because its a VERY difficult feat . Attributing the accuracy of Kovalev's body shots to his historically high body KO percentage is really ridiculous
                You're right, your baseless claims are much more logical.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                  None of the fighters u named had over half their KOs by way of body shots and u even named some heavyweights . Does anyone on this site besides me realize how much harder u have to be hitting people , amongst ur contemporaries, to have approx 50% of ur KO's coming by way of body shots ? Historically it's never been even close to being reached , not even by heavyweights such as Tyson who put in formittable body work . Ward has incredible body work and I have never seen his stop anyone to the body , and if he has it wasn't many which is strange considering how many of his opponents talk about how strong he is on the inside . Hopkins has been a excellent body puncher his whole career but it was still a rarity to stop De La Hoya the way he did . Now we have GGG and Kovalev doing it every other fight or so . Kovalev merely tapped Caparello to the body and forced him to take a knee . Not to mention he's already killed someone in the ring . I'm not drinking this Kool Aid , u can have at it and enjoy KO after KO till his next opponent dies in the ring as well . Keep cheering it on !
                  kovalev doesnt have any of the tell tale signs of steroid use. people accusing him of using because of all his knockouts to the body are just being ****** or hating on him. If anything id suspect pascal of using before id suspect kovalev

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by beez721
                    kovalev doesnt have any of the tell tale signs of steroid use. people accusing him of using because of all his knockouts to the body are just being ****** or hating on him. If anything id suspect pascal of using before id suspect kovalev
                    If a fighters body KO percentage is lingering at about 50% , which is a historic anomaly , isn't a sign of some sort of PED use to you then nothing will be ! Like I said before ; does anyone on this site realize how rare it is for a fighter to get merely 1 KO by way of a body shot ? One the the last fighters I can recall doing it was Hopkins vs De La Hoya , that speaks to how rare it really is . now we have GGG and Kovalev doing it every other fight or so and people r justifying it as if its normal . So a ask this question again ; does anyone beside me realize how much stronger GGG and Kovalev are in contrast to their contemporaries to achieve such a thing ?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                      If a fighters body KO percentage is lingering at about 50% , which is a historic anomaly , isn't a sign of some sort of PED use to you then nothing will be ! Like I said before ; does anyone on this site realize how rare it is for a fighter to get merely 1 KO by way of a body shot ? One the the last fighters I can recall doing it was Hopkins vs De La Hoya , that speaks to how rare it really is . now we have GGG and Kovalev doing it every other fight or so and people r justifying it as if its normal . So a ask this question again ; does anyone beside me realize how much stronger GGG and Kovalev are in contrast to their contemporaries to achieve such a thing ?
                      Ill try one more time, it's simple. If it was only peds then everyone on it would be blowing guys away, obviously it's something more than that.

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