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  • #61
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
    Pacquiao added muscle and doubled his punch output when he moved to WW in his 30s.
    Doubled punch output? Link that ****.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
      Doubled punch output? Link that ****.
      He threw 1231 punches against Clottey.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
        Loss of results is a sanctioning phrase, it means whatever results they received, they LOSE. So if the athlete won a gold medal, he/she has now LOST that gold medal.

        And they lost the results because they tested POSITIVE for a banned substance, and/or they were repeatedly absent when it came time for a drug test.
        My bad. I don't keep up on my usada ged.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View Post
          JMM was juicing... based on what?
          based on the fact he looked like king kong at 38 and never looked like that before

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          • #65
            Where are all those hardcore Pac fanantics?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
              He threw 1231 punches against Clottey.
              Because Clottey didn't do **** Pacquiao has always been close to 1k in output if you just let him go off on you he will do so Clottey doesn't even know what Pacs face looks like. His average in output hasn't changed 1 bit other than that anomaly. He threw 900 punches against Morales when he lost, one fight doesn't constitute an overall output increase.
              Last edited by DannYankee; 03-11-2015, 07:49 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by PeasantCrusha View Post
                It's unfortunate that this sport has become so soiled with shady individuals etc.



                PEDs...the elephant, or rather, the HORSE in the room.

                I wish Roach said this 5 years ago. That would have been nice.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by titan m View Post
                  Even the biggest Pacquiao fans would have to see the hypocrisy in that even though they probably wouldn't admit it.

                  When Mayweather wants testing and accuses Pacquiao of being on something with absolutely no proof everybody says there's no need for extra testing and Mayweather gets sued.

                  Fast forward to Pacquiao getting KO'd by Marquez, now there needs to be better testing in boxing and Marquez gets accused of being on something with absolutely no proof, and there isn't any proof just jackasses grasping at straws and making excuses.

                  Its actually quite funny, Roach had a big problem when Pacquiao was accused but he's ok accusing somebody else of the same thing even though they never failed a drug test either.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by BTL View Post
                    i dont think manny was juicing.

                    marquez to me did... u cant argue against that.
                    I can argue against that... here's my argument: Let the commission do it's job and Marquez passed the same tests that Manny did.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post
                      based on the fact he looked like king kong at 38 and never looked like that before
                      Since when did King Kong weigh 143lbs? Pac weighed 147lbs, what does that make him? Godzilla?

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