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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
    There is no rulebook for judging. If power punches did not matter it wouldn't exist next to.jabs in a compubox. Judging is subjective to a certain degree.
    There are no rules on judging a fight? Are you sure?

    I didn't ask you your opinion on what mattered. That they are differentiated by Compubox is not relevant to how to score a round since Compubox is not a round scoring system but a punch count tool.

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    • screwhead1
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      #52
      Everyone is banking on Manny even hitting Floyd. I don't know if some of you really watch his fights but Floyd's job is to make it to where a boxer can't do what he wants. That's what the first 3 rounds are for, to understand your plan and make sure you can't execute. If Manny looses his **** and goes wild, Floyd will immediately know what to do with that and will work from there. Pac can not outbox Floyd so he isn't going to overwhelm him. If people 3 times Manny's size can't do it, I don't think he can. Floyd also doesn't waste shots so acting like he will be swinging and not hitting manny is pretty crazy to think. Cotto continued to adjust up until the last few rounds. That's what made it exciting. But notice he had to damn near adjust every round and ended up pretty far behind. It's who will adjust first and so far off of all the data we have collected, Floyd rules by that idea.

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      • HeGotPacProblem
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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        There are no rules on judging a fight? Are you sure?

        I didn't ask you your opinion on what mattered. That they are differentiated by Compubox is not relevant to how to score a round since Compubox is not a round scoring system but a punch count tool.
        Pretty sure. Find it if you can.

        Point is power punches are there because they matter.

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          #54
          Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
          Pretty sure. Find it if you can.

          Point is power punches are there because they matter.
          You clearly are mistaken. In your spare time you can check. Hopefully, you will be adult enough to admit your error.

          compubox isn't a round scoring system so in regards to scoring a fight, power doesn't matter. they don't count more or less than jabs.

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          • jbpanama
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            #55
            Originally posted by screwhead1
            Everyone is banking on Manny even hitting Floyd. I don't know if some of you really watch his fights but Floyd's job is to make it to where a boxer can't do what he wants. That's what the first 3 rounds are for, to understand your plan and make sure you can't execute. If Manny looses his **** and goes wild, Floyd will immediately know what to do with that and will work from there. Pac can not outbox Floyd so he isn't going to overwhelm him. If people 3 times Manny's size can't do it, I don't think he can. Floyd also doesn't waste shots so acting like he will be swinging and not hitting manny is pretty crazy to think. Cotto continued to adjust up until the last few rounds. That's what made it exciting. But notice he had to damn near adjust every round and ended up pretty far behind. It's who will adjust first and so far off of all the data we have collected, Floyd rules by that idea.
            Our Hero, the FRAUDSTER, will be Fighting for His Life, in this one!!!

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              #56
              Manny can win in the first 3 if he hurts floyd and finishes him. Other than that Floyd walks away with it. Mosley was the first to show Pac's weakness, Marquez KO'd him with it and even Algeri was able to land consistently off of it. If you take a step back and to the left as Pac comes in to begin his combo, either feinting with the right then he throws his left or when he doubles the right jab into the left, after the step Pac will reach with his left hand leaving himself wide open for the right counter. Watch the tapes.

              Mosley was too old to fire and Algeri cant bust a g****. Floyd is gonna land that right hand all night. Roach hasn't fixed it yet.

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              • HeGotPacProblem
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                #57
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                You clearly are mistaken. In your spare time you can check. Hopefully, you will be adult enough to admit your error.

                compubox isn't a round scoring system so in regards to scoring a fight, power doesn't matter. they don't count more or less than jabs.
                Here....there is no rulebook. It's subjective in pro boxing.
                It’s one of those awful questions that comes up, especially after a close and controversial bout. Sometimes it’s unnecessary to really go into any detail… rounds are so obviously …

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                  Here....there is no rulebook. It's subjective in pro boxing.
                  https://slipthejab.wordpress.com/201...a-boxing-bout/
                  Really, you are seriously trying to get over on the word rulebook?

                  Going first to the regulations:
                  Scoring criteria

                  The scoring shall be done on a TEN POINT must system. Judges are to score each round using the following scoring criteria:

                  1. Clean punching (power versus quantity).
                  2. Effective aggressiveness.
                  3. Ring generalship.
                  4. Defense.


                  The part (power versus quantity) in parenthesis is the writer's addition, not the actual scoring criteria, which is 1-4.

                  Now that you have posted how to score a fight, as I asked earlier, Show me where a judge is told to score a power punch more than a jab.

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                  • rocktx
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                    #59
                    Vulnerable is a stretch. You maybe could say that Floyd is a slow starter, but if he was "very vulnerable" like Thurman said, he would have lost by now.

                    If you hope to win a decision over Floyd, you can prob get the 1st 3 rounds on the scorecard easier than any other. But that's about it

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #60
                      Thurman said all the right things to beat Floyd in theory. Executing it is a different story.

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