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  • #21
    Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23 View Post
    OK I went back and read everything. I also disagree with you on the Hopkins comparison. Kovalev was just too big for Hopkins which Hopkins
    NO. It wasn't Kovalev's pure strength that beat Hopkins, even B-Hop disagrees with you. Hopkins described it himself, that whenever Kovalev got done with his combination punching, he would step back out and Bernard was forced to reset. He could never counter Kovalev the way he wanted to, and that's what Manny can do to Floyd. Instead of flurrying on a back-against-the-ropes Floyd for as long as he can, he can deliver a fast combo and step back out. It will show that he is not desperate and it will also minimize Floyd's chances to get comfortable and start countering and/or grabbing Manny for a clinch.

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    • #22
      Flyod always rises to the occasion and looks best against his most formittable opponents . He will be very dominant against Manny , as he did Canelo . It's the fighters that Flyod takes lightly that have the greatest chance of beating him because Flyod underestimates them ie Mosley , Cotto , Maidona ect ect

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      • #23
        Miguel Cotto knows it. He fought Manny Pacquiao few years back and he knows very clearly what it would take to fight the Pacman. Then he also became a stable mate under trainer Freddie Roach. That is the reason why he said Manny Pacquiao will beat Miss Flor Mayweather Jr. on May 2. You can also ask Antonio Margarito, Oscar Dela Hoya and Brandon Rios...a few of the bigger fighters that the Pacman fought.

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        • #24
          The only chance mayweather has in this fight is if he can take mannys punches and throw enough of his own to overcome mannys volume punching. Most of the time when an opponent feels the power and speed of Manny pacquiao, they shell up in their guard and just hold on so they dont get knocked out. I think mayweather will not be able to adapt to mannys speed. And Thurman is right, Floyd is not able to knock out Manny pacquiao, unless he uses a **** ton of that xylocaine and doesn't care about breaking his hand. Floyd doesn't throw hard punches because he is scared of he breaks his hand early in the fight then he would have to fight the rest of the way one handed. I believe this gives Manny the advantage because he doesn't have to worry about getting koed, so he can toy with Floyd like he did with Chris algieri and clown him all over the ring and cruise to an easy unanimous decision or possibly even knock out mayweather. If Manny know he is down on the cards in the final rounds tiu better expect some fireworks and Manny will try to knock out Floyd. I feel this is the biggest advantage Manny has is because he has knockout power he can be way down on the cards and still Ko Floyd where as if Floyd is way down which he will be, he cant come back and Ko Manny pacquiao. #war pacquiao #war arum #Floyd is still scared

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
            NO. It wasn't Kovalev's pure strength that beat Hopkins, even B-Hop disagrees with you. Hopkins described it himself, that whenever Kovalev got done with his combination punching, he would step back out and Bernard was forced to reset. He could never counter Kovalev the way he wanted to, and that's what Manny can do to Floyd. Instead of flurrying on a back-against-the-ropes Floyd for as long as he can, he can deliver a fast combo and step back out. It will show that he is not desperate and it will also minimize Floyd's chances to get comfortable and start countering and/or grabbing Manny for a clinch.
            Great post, but Hopkins also said how big he was. Hopkins respected his power which he really fought not to get knocked out. I don't beleive PAC has that power. Floyd is also the bigger man with a longer reach which changes the dynamics in the fight! It's a total different fought them the 1 that your comparing it to

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson View Post
              Flyod always rises to the occasion and looks best against his most formittable opponents . He will be very dominant against Manny , as he did Canelo . It's the fighters that Flyod takes lightly that have the greatest chance of beating him because Flyod underestimates them ie Mosley , Cotto , Maidona ect ect
              I wouldn't say takes them lightly. He underestimated Shane's power. A mistake I dont believe he'll make again. Floyd played "the slacker" role against Cotto which got people talking about Floyd "missing a step, getting old, reflexes are shot", etc.

              He wanted to prove a point against Maidana, and me thinks wanted to teach lil bro Broner how to handle a young, aggressive, brawler and still come out on top.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
                The only chance mayweather has in this fight is if he can take mannys punches and throw enough of his own to overcome mannys volume punching. Most of the time when an opponent feels the power and speed of Manny pacquiao, they shell up in their guard and just hold on so they dont get knocked out. I think mayweather will not be able to adapt to mannys speed. And Thurman is right, Floyd is not able to knock out Manny pacquiao, unless he uses a **** ton of that xylocaine and doesn't care about breaking his hand. Floyd doesn't throw hard punches because he is scared of he breaks his hand early in the fight then he would have to fight the rest of the way one handed. I believe this gives Manny the advantage because he doesn't have to worry about getting koed, so he can toy with Floyd like he did with Chris algieri and clown him all over the ring and cruise to an easy unanimous decision or possibly even knock out mayweather. If Manny know he is down on the cards in the final rounds tiu better expect some fireworks and Manny will try to knock out Floyd. I feel this is the biggest advantage Manny has is because he has knockout power he can be way down on the cards and still Ko Floyd where as if Floyd is way down which he will be, he cant come back and Ko Manny pacquiao. #war pacquiao #war arum #Floyd is still scared
                Wow! He's going to be able to toy with Floyd? I guess Floyd is just a regular fighter! Roach isn't that confident! I don't think PAC has fought someone who is bigger, more skilled, and just as fast as Floyd!! Your in for a ride awaking my friend

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                • #28
                  Thurman is right to an extent, people have trouble Floyd early, but Floyd's also shown his ability to get through adversary and adjust. . . . So Pac if he wants to capitalize on Floyd early will have to go that extra step as well in finishing Floyd.

                  Interesting to see how it plays out.

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                  • #29
                    It's a trap, Floyd is woking with Memo behind the scene. Manny needs to fight intelligently like he did with Oscar

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      If you look at the fights that Floyd has not completely shut his opponent out, most of the rounds lost were in the 1st 1/3rd of the fight so Thurman shows he has been studying Floyd's fights.
                      I think thurman is absolutely spot on with his comments.....volume volume volume...and because manny is actually as quick as floyd more punches will get through and that inturn will make floyd more defensive.....another thing as well because manny movement is side to side and low not all of mayweathers punches will get through.......closing the distance will be very important on floyd and not to let him Coast....Mannys stamina will have be to consistent because if it turns out to be floyd getting out worked in the 1st 4 rounds I can see it becoming a real struggle for floyd to close because he will also feel the pace because manny stamina is always excellent......interesting fight and it's 50/50 in my eyes

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