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  • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
    Didnt Cotto do this years after the Pac fight? At first fair and square then blamed the CW, while using CWs himself
    Yeah, I'll never get why Cotto had Martinez fight at 159 which really is crazy. If all these guys agree to a certain weight, I don't have much problem with that.....the problem I have is when they complain afterward after agreeing to a catch weight or prior to that or after that, insisting on a catch weight.....but Floyd takes the take with his big speech about how he is not that kind of guy who asks for catch weights and then does just that.
    Last edited by richardt; 03-09-2015, 11:28 PM.

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    • This is pretty pathetic. Damn. Do all these boxers I hold some sort of respect for intend to lose it by saying this pathetic crap? Jesus Christ man. Canelo " I'm never fighting under 154 again ". Canelo " hey 147 pound Floyd, fight me again at 2pounds higher ". Didn't the ****ing guy outweigh him by 20 pounds?

      The signs of a weak person with a weak character is making excuses when they have an obvious understanding. Rather than admit the truth they deny it and make excuses. Face it. You're just not a better fighter than Mayweather. It's OK Canelo. Doesn't make you a failure. No need to make excuses now and no need for a rematch. Get it together man.

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      • Originally posted by richardt View Post
        Here are the facts:
        - A couple years ago Canelo said he would come down in weight.
        - Canelo during negotiations did not want to come down in weight as time had passed.
        - Floyd asked for 147 and Canelo asked for 154.
        - They decided on 152
        - Floyd before the Cotto fight said he would never do catchweights, he is not that kind of guy, he wants a guy to come in at a comfortable weight.
        - Many of Floyd's fans criticized Pac for asking for a catchweight and all of a sudden changed their tune when Floyd insisted on a catch weight.
        - Floyd was a hypocrite who threw himself under the bus as well as some of his fans doing the same thing.
        - Canelo did not complain before or after the fight about being drained so that ship has sailed.
        - Canelo has also been allowed to fight at catchweights while holding his 154 pound title.

        I agree with what you said ..... the only thing I want to point out was that Canelo did say close to the end of his training that losing weight was the hardest thing that he had to do during his training camp.

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        • Originally posted by richardt View Post
          Here are the facts:
          - A couple years ago Canelo said he would come down in weight.
          - Canelo during negotiations did not want to come down in weight as time had passed.
          - Floyd asked for 147 and Canelo asked for 154.
          - They decided on 152
          - Floyd before the Cotto fight said he would never do catchweights, he is not that kind of guy, he wants a guy to come in at a comfortable weight.
          - Many of Floyd's fans criticized Pac for asking for a catchweight and all of a sudden changed their tune when Floyd insisted on a catch weight.
          - Floyd was a hypocrite who threw himself under the bus as well as some of his fans doing the same thing.
          - Canelo did not complain before or after the fight about being drained so that ship has sailed.
          - Canelo has also been allowed to fight at catchweights while holding his 154 pound title.
          I told everyone that Mayweather had to be concerned with Canelo. Because why give him a catchweight? It wasn't beneficial for him anyway. All it would do would open the door up for excuses and also show that his word doesn't mean much. Im glad you posted that because when I heard the nonsense from Ellerbe about why they had the catchweight I seen that Mayweather would prefer Canelo to be uncomfortable contrary to his statements about the Cotto fight. I like the guy as a fighter but Mayweather ain't no angel.

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          • LMAO @ Canelo being weight drained. He should be ashamed... especially with the con****uous physical size advantage he held over Floyd.

            Just admit it Canelo and Canelo fans: Mayweather's defensive prowess and in the ring IQ is > than anything Canelo has to offer... at any weight. Period.

            Of course Floyd is going to demand a catchweight. It's the smart thing to do when you're in Floyd's position.

            The purpose of a catchweight is to "even the playing field". Otherwise, why would a smaller man fight a naturally bigger man?

            Didn't Canelo himself fight his next two fights after Mayweather at a "catchweight"? Why didn't he just fight Lara and Angulo at 160 instead of fighting at 155? That's proof Canelo is not a true Middleweight; therefore making 154 is not that hard for him.

            Who is Canelo fighting next? Another Jr. Middleweight. LOL!

            Canelo still has sour g****s that Mayweather took his "green belt" and he couldn't do **** about it but stand there and take it like a man.

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            • Originally posted by richardt View Post
              Yeah, I'll never get why Cotto had Martinez fight at 159 which really is crazy. If all these guys agree to a certain weight, I don't have much problem with that.....the problem I have is when they complain afterward after insisting on a catch weight or agreeing to a catch weight.....but Floyd takes the take with his big speech about how he is not that kind of guy who asks for catch weights and then does just that.
              Margarito 2 was at 153, after Cotto tried forcing 150.

              Dont forget about Floyd calling Cotto undefeated cause Pac fought him at a CW

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              • Originally posted by TheWinners View Post
                This is pretty pathetic. Damn. Do all these boxers I hold some sort of respect for intend to lose it by saying this pathetic crap? Jesus Christ man. Canelo " I'm never fighting under 154 again ". Canelo " hey 147 pound Floyd, fight me again at 2pounds higher ". Didn't the ****ing guy outweigh him by 20 pounds?

                The signs of a weak person with a weak character is making excuses when they have an obvious understanding. Rather than admit the truth they deny it and make excuses. Face it. You're just not a better fighter than Mayweather. It's OK Canelo. Doesn't make you a failure. No need to make excuses now and no need for a rematch. Get it together man.
                This guy gets it.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  I agree with what you said ..... the only thing I want to point out was that Canelo did say close to the end of his training that losing weight was the hardest thing that he had to do during his training camp.
                  I may have missed some of those 24/7 episodes but if he said it, I take your word for it as to what he said before the fight. After the fight, one of the things he said was that the weight was not a problem....though he may have changed his mind or said something different before or after.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    I agree with what you said ..... the only thing I want to point out was that Canelo did say close to the end of his training that losing weight was the hardest thing that he had to do during his training camp.
                    Of course he said that. He was already planting excuses. The same excuses he's still making to this day.

                    If it was remotely as hard to make 154 as Canelo is lying about, then why not turn down the fight?

                    I thought Antonio Tarver already made an example of out of excuse makers? ANY EXCUSES TONIGHT, ROY?

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                    • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      Margarito 2 was at 153, after Cotto tried forcing 150.

                      Dont forget about Floyd calling Cotto undefeated cause Pac fought him at a CW
                      Yeah, those words from Floyd came back to haunt him and that means according to Floyd, Canelo is still undefeated. He shot himself in the foot with that one. What surprised me was a couple Floyd fans saying they didn't accept what Floyd did with the big speech about catch weights and then insisting on one for the Canelo fight. But, were they just saving face and being disingenuous, or were they really pissed at Floyd. Hard to say.
                      Last edited by richardt; 03-09-2015, 11:39 PM.

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