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  • bigfo0t
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    #201
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    if this is true-PAY THE SPARRING PARTNERS MORE TO COME IN. Its simple as that.

    If you are at an auction and someone tops your bid do you get up and throw a fucking temper tantrum like a baby. No you do one of two things-bid more or stop bidding and lose out on whatever it was.

    GTFO. Bob is worth 10x what Haymon is. He can afford it.

    as for a fair fight, how does this alleged stuff happening on March 5, 2015 affect the fairness of a fight scheduled for May 2, 2015, 2 months later?
    I don't see anyone from Team PAC crying, whining, or "throwing temper tantrums like a baby" over it (that's more of a Floyd thing), they are just shaking their heads in disgust and answering questions people ask them.

    They don't need to pay those turncoats more, as far as their concerned those guys can't even be trusted anymore. If anything it probably helped them weed out potential TMT spies.. plus they could always go to any boxing gym in Vegas and pick out a shoulder-rolling Floyd wannabe, they aren't that hard to find.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #202
      Originally posted by Jab-Slip-Troll
      illegal NO.... dishonest.... **** YES.
      please explain how it is dishonest to offer someone more money so they help you out instead of your competitor?

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        #203
        Originally posted by theBEASTwithin
        I don't see anyone from Team PAC crying, whining, or "throwing temper tantrums like a baby" over it (that's more of a Floyd thing), they are just shaking their heads in disgust and answering questions people ask them.

        They don't need to pay those turncoats more, as far as their concerned those guys can't even be trusted anymore. If anything it probably helped them weed out potential TMT spies.. plus they could always go to any boxing gym in Vegas and pick out a shoulder-rolling Floyd wannabe, they aren't that hard to find.
        I didn't suggest they did, I was talking about several posters on NSB.

        Turncoats? potential TMT spies. WTF? You really, honestly believe this. The mentality of the crazy pac fan on full display.

        OK, so if this is the case, go get anyone of them, pay them good money, get them to sign a contract, and this issue is solved.

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        • Jab-Slip-Troll
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          #204
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          please explain how it is dishonest to offer someone more money so they help you out instead of your competitor?
          no ur not paying them to "help you out", your paying them to say "NO to helping the other person out".... a b1tch move.

          practically your paying them to stay home, not even using them as sparring partners.

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            #205
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            you left this part of the definition out:

            persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

            Now, if this is true, is paying sparring partners not to spar illegal or dishonest?
            Big D, I got it right from that link. They may need to add the last one I used as an example just so you Floyd fans get it.

            To answer your question, nothing illegal but nothing honest about that type of behavior. Kinda shady and makes you wonder what else they are doing behind our backs, no?

            Its similar to another example they gave:
            "We bribed the children with candy"


            Floyd bribed them with money instead.

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              #206
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              So doing something legally and then getting a signed document as a commitment is now dirty tactics? I guess signing a marriage license or a mortgage agreement is dirty tactics too. GTFO.

              Here's how you find out- you ask them-"How much did you get paid"? then when they tell you-you respond, "I'll double it".

              Your pathetic.
              wow. just wow. yah sure it's legal but does it mean what haymon and floyd did is right, fair and sportsmanlike!?!?? absolutely not. it's completely dirty and shows how much floyd isn't very confident.

              and like i said, haymon also probably have them discontinue contact with roach as part of the bribe. so roach won't know how much they got paid or anything. they just won't show up and won't answer back.

              honestly, this is not hard to understand. just stick to the "it's most likely not true and just rumors argument" cause you might have a better case there.

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                #207
                Originally posted by Jab-Slip-Troll
                no ur not paying them to "help you out", your paying them to say "NO to helping the other person out".... a b1tch move.

                practically your paying them to stay home, not even using them as sparring partners.
                If what some other pac fans posted is true-(I don't think it is) this hurts pac's preparation-which helps Haymon's fighter out. right?

                Ok, you gave me your opinion but again, how is paying them not to work with Manny dishonest?

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Big D, I got it right from that link. They may need to add the last one I used as an example just so you Floyd fans get it.

                  To answer your question, nothing illegal but nothing honest about that type of behavior. Kinda shady and makes you wonder what else they are doing behind our backs, no?

                  Its similar to another example they gave:
                  "We bribed the children with candy"


                  Floyd bribed them with money instead.
                  explain how it is dishonest?

                  No it isn't. Bribed implies they were illegally or dishonestly coerced into doing something. In this case, if true, they were simply paid more than TR offered them to come into camp. Did these guys ever make it to camp with Manny?

                  They exploited a loophole at worst-a loophole that Bob could have easily closed if he paid them more and signed them.

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                  • bigfo0t
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I didn't suggest they did, I was talking about several posters on NSB.
                    Actually, you did.

                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    if this is true-PAY THE SPARRING PARTNERS MORE TO COME IN. Its simple as that.

                    If you are at an auction and someone tops your bid do you get up and throw a fucking temper tantrum like a baby. No you do one of two things-bid more or stop bidding and lose out on whatever it was.

                    GTFO. Bob is worth 10x what Haymon is. He can afford it.

                    as for a fair fight, how does this alleged stuff happening on March 5, 2015 affect the fairness of a fight scheduled for May 2, 2015, 2 months later?
                    Or were you suggesting NSB posters pay for it?

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Divine Hammer
                      wow. just wow. yah sure it's legal but does it mean what haymon and floyd did is right, fair and sportsmanlike!?!?? absolutely not. it's completely dirty and shows how much floyd isn't very confident.

                      and like i said, haymon also probably have them discontinue contact with roach as part of the bribe. so roach won't know how much they got paid or anything. they just won't show up and won't answer back.

                      honestly, this is not hard to understand. just stick to the "it's most likely not true and just rumors argument" cause you might have a better case there.
                      You are only calling it dirty because Manny is on the other end. Ridiculous.

                      Calling it a bribe out of desperation is pathetic. I could see if they were under contract and got bribed to not spar hard or give info to Haymon. They just got paid more.

                      No, lets say it is true, still a simple fix. Pay them more money to spar.

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