Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson: Mayweather Needs To 'Fight' Pacquaio

[silentscoper]

Floyd has never faced anyone this deadly and creative at close range. Manny has never faced anyone this good at controlling distance.

Distance is the key in this fight. Floyd has to deny Manny the positions he needs to attack while still throwing enough to win rounds. That's a delicate balancing act. Manny has to get inside without being too reckless and walking onto lead rights all night.

It's a challenge for both. Maidana's awkwardness was enough to have Floyd backing straight up in their first fight and Maidana has no speed or creativity compared to Pacquiao. JMM's footwork was enough to deny Manny an attacking platform in their third fight and Marquez doesn't have Floyd's speed or accuracy.

Neither of those fights are directly comparable to this one but certain aspects of them are very relevant. The reason you have to lean towards Floyd is because his task, given his skill-set, is slightly less challenging than Pacquiao's.

But I find it hard to see either guy dominating the other. Floyd doesn't throw enough, either in single exchanges or overall, to repel Manny. And Pac doesn't close distance/cut the ring off well enough to put huge pressure on Floyd. Both guys have weaknesses that play well for the other, but you have to see it play out before you're going to know which factors are the most significant.

I concur with you. Excellent post.

[stuff jones]

It's basic math but even that may be to much for Floyd's fans. Floyd isn't going to win just pot shoting here and there. Manny will land too many punches for Floyd to win rounds that way. Floyd has got to be more aggressive offensively to win rounds vs an athletic, high volume guy like Manny.

[Joe Beamish]

It's not going to be about "volume of punches", or about "power." It's about SKILLS.

Floyd has more skills. He will know where to score, and how to take advantage of Pacquiao's shortcomings.

Pac's power is also overrated. He hurts people by accumulating tons of punches, but he doesn't KO anyone with a few big shots. He's not GGG or Kovalev. He needs to land OFTEN, which he will not be able to do against Floyd.

Plus Pac is teeny weeny, like Marquez. Which is fine against most opponents...but not against Mayweather.

I don't see a very competitive fight here. But it could get exciting if Manny truly goes for the kill.

The dedicated boxer wins this going away. Not the basketball player congressman singer whatever guy.

If you don't DEDICATE yourself, you won't win against the very best.

[The plunger man]

I agree with you I do believe mayweather will be victorious in the end. My question remains how will Floyd react to Manny's style? Let's face it he's no maidana he's a lot faster and a better boxer. Also manny is a southpaw let's not forget Judah had mayweather on his heels for the first four rounds. Who knows what would've really happened had he been a disciplined fighter. Now how will manny react to Floyd's counters? Floyd is a much better boxer than Marquez and we seen what Floyd did to juan and Marquez took pacquiao to hell and back and back again it will be a good fight Floyd will win but it won't be one sided.

Nah I don't think so.....with the Judah floyd was at his peak and was so much sharper.....considering the times maidana caught him with punches compared to the Judah fight who is a lot quicker shows me floyds reactions are nowhere what they use to be.....floyd will actually take a lot more punches in this fight and will by habit go into his defensive mode if he gets hurt...but at 38 will mayweather actually be able to step up his work rate to keep ahead of pacquiaos attack and pace.....this fight could end up with a few different outcomes but I reckon pacquiaos pace will be to much for floyd ......pacquiao might hurt him but I don't think he stops mayweather or K0's him unless it's a hatton punch......we know pacquiao can work non stop I'm not sure to sure if floyd can do the same .....pacquiao will pull it off

[FLY TY]

He was lucky to beat Maidana the first time around, Pac stops Maidana. Floyd had better hope that daddy Hymen has a judge in his back pocket......he's going to need it.

Floyd swept the entire second half of that fight. He won 9-3 or 8-4 at worst.

His mistake was spending too much time on the ropes, letting Maidana tee off, giving the impression he was landing more than he actually was. The second fight, he corrected that to an extent, and won more clear, for the uneducated.

[babynuts]

Floyd has never faced anyone this deadly and creative at close range.

Hmm. I wouldn't say Manny is that good at close range. He has literally no inside game anyway. That's why he usually darts in and out at speed and good counter punchers will make him pay, but they need to be elite counter punchers to do that.

[Muscles72]

Nah I don't think so.....with the Judah floyd was at his peak and was so much sharper.....considering the times maidana caught him with punches compared to the Judah fight who is a lot quicker shows me floyds reactions are nowhere what they use to be.....floyd will actually take a lot more punches in this fight and will by habit go into his defensive mode if he gets hurt...but at 38 will mayweather actually be able to step up his work rate to keep ahead of pacquiaos attack and pace.....this fight could end up with a few different outcomes but I reckon pacquiaos pace will be to much for floyd ......pacquiao might hurt him but I don't think he stops mayweather or K0's him unless it's a hatton punch......we know pacquiao can work non stop I'm not sure to sure if floyd can do the same .....pacquiao will pull it off

A lot of good points man we'll see...

[Koljack]

Mike picking Pacquiao to win. Who is picking Floyd to win? (Flomz not included)

[UnifiedD]

This **** don't make sense

I keep reading "it's not about power or speed it's about skills" WTF????

As a power and Olympic lifter....do people actually know that speed, power explosiveness,strength are all set of skills???? LoL

[NEETzsche]

Floyd has never faced anyone this deadly and creative at close range. Manny has never faced anyone this good at controlling distance.

Distance is the key in this fight. Floyd has to deny Manny the positions he needs to attack while still throwing enough to win rounds. That's a delicate balancing act. Manny has to get inside without being too reckless and walking onto lead rights all night.

It's a challenge for both. Maidana's awkwardness was enough to have Floyd backing straight up in their first fight and Maidana has no speed or creativity compared to Pacquiao. JMM's footwork was enough to deny Manny an attacking platform in their third fight and Marquez doesn't have Floyd's speed or accuracy.

Neither of those fights are directly comparable to this one but certain aspects of them are very relevant. The reason you have to lean towards Floyd is because his task, given his skill-set, is slightly less challenging than Pacquiao's.

But I find it hard to see either guy dominating the other. Floyd doesn't throw enough, either in single exchanges or overall, to repel Manny. And Pac doesn't close distance/cut the ring off well enough to put huge pressure on Floyd. Both guys have weaknesses that play well for the other, but you have to see it play out before you're going to know which factors are the most significant.

i agree with your assessment that distance will be be key, but i think that pacquiao's optimal distance - which i would describe as mid-range rather than close - plays right into mayweather's hands. pacquiao needs a bit of room to work in and mayweather will deny him that by picking him off as soon as he is within reach. maidana made mayweather uncomfortable because he could just bully his way to the inside and rough him up there; however, if anyone's going to bully the other on the inside between floyd and pac, it will be floyd, which gives him the advantage at two key ranges, while pacquiao just has one sweet spot that he will be endlessly searching for