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Originally posted by chaos View PostSorry but you're wrong. Pacquiao was also an A-side p4p #1 at the time, so he had no reason to give in to those demands. And it was the first time random blood tests up to the day of the fight were demanded against someone in Pac's position, Tyson-Holyfield was not like that.
The weight penalty was because Floyd showed up overweight for the JMM fight and chose to pay out rather than show up at the proper weight, so it was a logical demand to ensure he makes weight because 200k obviously wasn't enough of a hit for him. And they NEVER refused the 50%, they were negotiating and Floyd walked away. Keep up the lies, it shows the weakness of your position.
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Originally posted by Marvellous1 View PostNo it was just that they wouldn't be able to determine when the test would no longer be happening, hence making it as close to random as possible. Again, I thought Pacquiao was the type that was humble and all for the fans. Now you're telling me he was right to be diva-like cos he da A-side (personally I hate that logic). Also, you're telling me without realising it, that Mayweather accepted conditions and Pacquiao walked. So again, why accept for 40% and refuse 50%? The testing is happening too, right?
When did I say Floyd accepted conditions when he refused the 3 weeks testing offer? Manny never refused 50%, they were negotiating the conditions but Floyd walked away. Now they accept 40% because he's no longer the a-side. You get the difference now champ?
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Originally posted by chaos View PostLol, you must be obtuse or willfully ignorant. Pac was A-side at the time. When you're negotiating as an A-side you don't simply give in to all the opponents demands. There's nothing diva about resisting/negotiating the ridiculous demands.
When did I say Floyd accepted conditions when he refused the 3 weeks testing offer? Manny never refused 50%, they were negotiating the conditions but Floyd walked away. Now they accept 40% because he's no longer the a-side. You get the difference now champ?
Floyd fans are master tail chasers, you will just go round and round in circles and you will lose the argument by a headache hahahaha
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostIts easy convict the hated guy of anything when you play connect the dots , if you want to get technical the dots can be connected in many ways where all were pressured to make the fight now , when everybody was saying the fight will never happen I always said it would , when everybody said it was not happening now including Oscar I said it was happening .
Floyd stepped up and called Manny out with a date , Floyd did not have to do that , he wants the fight .
A lot of people really underestimate the genius of Floyd Mayweather and it's really pathetic to me!
The man is a boxer first, and businessman second.
Mayweather is the second smartest boxer/businessman in history behind only the greatest pound-for-pound boxer of all times (Sugar Ray Robinson)!!
Mayweather got his boxer/businessman blueprint from Robinson and parlayed it into a big success because he had the luxury of being born after Robinson and learning from his mistakes.
Floyd has a habit of letting the biggest or smartest fights money-wise marinate which is very smart and I knew all along that he was going to fight Canelo and Pacquiao!!!!
I never let the haters change my view of Mayweather as a boxer/businessman because I was once one.Last edited by WalkerSmith1921; 02-28-2015, 07:49 AM.
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Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View PostMayweather got his boxer/businessman blueprint from Robinson and parlayed it into a big success because he had the luxury of being born after Robinson and learning from his mistakes.
Floyd has a habit of letting the biggest or smartest fights money-wise marinate which is very smart and I knew all along that he was going to fight Canelo and Pacquiao!!!!
It's an insult to compare him to SRR, a guy who never ducked anyone and fought the most dangerous fighters multiple times. Floyd's legacy will always have an asterisk and he'll never be in the same Category as SRR/Louis/Ali or even Leonard/Hagler/Hearns/Duran.
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Originally posted by chaos View PostLol, you must be obtuse or willfully ignorant. Pac was A-side at the time. When you're negotiating as an A-side you don't simply give in to all the opponents demands. There's nothing diva about resisting/negotiating the ridiculous demands.
When did I say Floyd accepted conditions when he refused the 3 weeks testing offer? Manny never refused 50%, they were negotiating the conditions but Floyd walked away. Now they accept 40% because he's no longer the a-side. You get the difference now champ?
What I get is Roach said they walked from a 50/50% fight because they didn't want tests they're happy to take now, yet someone else is to blame for the fight not happening???? Roach himself refutes your assertion that Mayweather walked from the first negotiations. If the demands were ridiculous then, why aren't they ridiculous now? If the only reason they're accepting them now is because of their standing, then that IS diva-like. You're saying Pacquaio has no choice but to accept less money, but Mayweather's the one being forced to take the fight?
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