Cotto, Santa-Cruz, And Chickenson are not so different.

[Lords]

They are all ducking fighters and they are making it quite obvious too.


Cotto is ducking Golovkin

Leo Santa Chicken is ducking Rigondeaux

And last but not least Aquacknis Chickenson is ducking Kovalev.

The only difference is that one of them is not with Al Haymon. And Because he isn't with Al Haymon is the reason why I think he won't be able to successfully duck Gennady Golovkin.

How you score Cotto/Clottey rd 1 10-8 for Clottey? Your a proven clown already. You have no say to speak on anything related to Cotto.

[-Johannes-]

See, I admit when I'm wrong and forgot about the Lee/Quillin fight. I hope Peter gets KTFO by the way.

All I've heard from you are excuses for Canelo and hating on Cotto because he's the champion. Didn't Canelo pass up becoming a champion at 154 because he didn't want to make weight? He did, so he became a MW...

You can be mad at Cotto, you have every right to and I never said you couldn't. But you're a Canelo fan and defending all his bull**** while ****ting on Cotto... That's not even the issue, you can hate Cotto all you want. The problem is your hypocrisy. Cotto gets a voluntary, period. So he isn't ducking GGG until he actually faces his voluntary if you want to get technical, but then again you don't when it involves Canelo. Technically he's in the MW division but your response is... he's not fighting at 160. Well, you know what neither is Cotto so he shouldn't have to fight GGG, his last fight was at 159. That makes all the difference according to you.

Do you not see how dumb you look? If you want to say Cotto is ducking GGG, I wouldn't disagree with you. But, don't hate on Cotto and defend Canelo, on anything. He's done more diva **** in 3 fights than Cotto has done in a career.

Are you ******ed? Serious question man I'm not even trying to insult you at this point.

I said I couln't give more of a **** about Canelo. I'm a GGG fan, what's so hard to understand? How am I defending Canelo? I'm calling on your bull**** that you want to excuse cotto because canelo is doing similar things.

So yeah if you see how wrong canelo is doing why don't you criticize cotto as well. Look, and read this carefully because this is my main concern.

Cotto isn't going to defend his title against Alvarez or Floyd. Ok now, he still has his voluntary defense. If he fights a welterweight shame on him because he's trying to secure his only leverage which is the MW title. After this fight, what's next? If he can't get Floyd he's just going to relinquish the title like a b*tch, something he should've done if he wasn't planning on defending it against anyone credible.

For the record, just in case you have the attention spam of a tomato. I'm not a Canelo fan, I'm not condoning anything he does so please stop claiming I'm a ginger fan when I couldn't care less about him.

[lefthook2daliva]

Do you really feel smart by your first remark? You're not special, that though it's been used here, for a while as a joke. Do you try to correct those who use the word "innit"?

You have given passes, thus it becomes ok. I got it.

I agree with the last thing you said doe...

Excuse my bunched up panties. I get fed up with the hyperbole from time to time, innit?

On topic: so you don't give Froch a pass for wanting none of GGG? You despise Hops for his antics with Dawson? You no longer enjoy all of JMM's leave-it-all-in-the-ring battles because he fought Alvarado instead of Provodnikov? How bout Martinez? He avoided Golovkin to cash out on a "shot" Cotto? ...wait...wut?

You're just too core? Nobody gets a break, huh?

[Beater_of_ass]

Are you ******ed? Serious question man I'm not even trying to insult you at this point.

I said I couln't give more of a **** about Canelo. I'm a GGG fan, what's so hard to understand? How am I defending Canelo? I'm calling on your bull**** that you want to excuse cotto because canelo is doing similar things.

So yeah if you see how wrong canelo is doing why don't you criticize cotto as well. Look, and read this carefully because this is my main concern.

Cotto isn't going to defend his title against Alvarez or Floyd. Ok now, he still has his voluntary defense. If he fights a welterweight shame on him because he's trying to secure his only leverage which is the MW title. After this fight, what's next? If he can't get Floyd he's just going to relinquish the title like a b*tch, something he should've done if he wasn't planning on defending it against anyone credible.

For the record, just in case you have the attention spam of a tomato. I'm not a Canelo fan, I'm not condoning anything he does so please stop claiming I'm a ginger fan when I couldn't care less about him.

No, I'm not ******ed you just have no concept of how to not double speak. You just gave a million excuses as to why Canelo can do all his ****, next post it's "I don't even like Canelo, forget everything I just said about fighting at 155 etc..." Hypocrisy, no matter how dumb you think I am or how much I nuthug Cotto, you can't call me a hypocrite because i don't bull****. You're mad, not because I'm defending Cotto but because I'm consistently calling you out on your bull**** excuses for Canelo or any fighter who does diva ****. You can't complaina bout Cotto and give someone else a pass, it doens't work that way. It doesn't have to be Cotto or Canelo, it's any fighter.

Let's drop it and go back to Cotto with the title. Did Cotto say he is 100% fighting on the day of the NY parade? No, there have been talks about late May, early June and even late June. Now, Arum said they haven't even started negotiating with anyone... So, Cotto has NO fights planned right now, nothing and you're going off on long ass posts over Cotto's THEORETICAL WW fight while Canelo is ACTUALLY fighting another JMW at MW. Do you get it now? Maybe?

Anyway, Cotto will fight Floyd September for the MW title or Canelo should Floyd lose to Manny. Cotto may even fight Manny with a new trainer if the option presents itself, I don't know if it's for the MW title but it could happen. So, continue hating this phantom fight if you wish, that makes you a dumbass. Cotto ducking on GGG, that makes you a realist. But don't be a hypocrite by trying to cover your ass saying the opposite of what you just said, literally 1 post prior.

[Beater_of_ass]

Excuse my bunched up panties. I get fed up with the hyperbole from time to time, innit?

On topic: so you don't give Froch a pass for wanting none of GGG? You despise Hops for his antics with Dawson? You no longer enjoy all of JMM's leave-it-all-in-the-ring battles because he fought Alvarado instead of Provodnikov? How bout Martinez? He avoided Golovkin to cash out on a "shot" Cotto? ...wait...wut?

You're just too core? Nobody gets a break, huh?

Hypocrisy. No admission of being wrong, just deny, deny, deny and then differ, differ, differ. The Canelo fans have become fl*mo's.

[-Johannes-]

No, I'm not ******ed you just have no concept of how to not double speak. You just gave a million excuses as to why Canelo can do all his ****, next post it's "I don't even like Canelo, forget everything I just said about fighting at 155 etc..." Hypocrisy, no matter how dumb you think I am or how much I nuthug Cotto, you can't call me a hypocrite because i don't bull****. You're mad, not because I'm defending Cotto but because I'm consistently calling you out on your bull**** excuses for Canelo or any fighter who does diva ****. You can't complaina bout Cotto and give someone else a pass, it doens't work that way. It doesn't have to be Cotto or Canelo, it's any fighter.

Let's drop it and go back to Cotto with the title. Did Cotto say he is 100% fighting on the day of the NY parade? No, there have been talks about late May, early June and even late June. Now, Arum said they haven't even started negotiating with anyone... So, Cotto has NO fights planned right now, nothing and you're going off on long ass posts over Cotto's THEORETICAL WW fight while Canelo is ACTUALLY fighting another JMW at MW. Do you get it now? Maybe?

Anyway, Cotto will fight Floyd September for the MW title or Canelo should Floyd lose to Manny. Cotto may even fight Manny with a new trainer if the option presents itself, I don't know if it's for the MW title but it could happen. So, continue hating this phantom fight if you wish, that makes you a dumbass. Cotto ducking on GGG, that makes you a realist. But don't be a hypocrite by trying to cover your ass saying the opposite of what you just said, literally 1 post prior.

You are ******ed, I made a clear post saying how I don't condone canelo. I pointed out the differences between what cotto does and what canelo does and I automatically become a canelo fan. what? I said they're both reprehensible. Why do you find that so hard to understand? because it doesn't fit your narrative?

Again. let's do this again. I'm not a fan of canelo, I don't care what he does. I'm not excusing anything he does. What I keep on posting are replies to your flawed logic that canelo is the same as cotto which isn't even the case because one is the lineal champion and the other isn't they're not held to the same standard. Omg man seriously I told you this already. You need help.

[fvanesbeck]

Aquacknis Chickenson? The guy is a duck but that wordplay is disgracefully bad...

[-Johannes-]

Excuse my bunched up panties. I get fed up with the hyperbole from time to time, innit?

On topic: so you don't give Froch a pass for wanting none of GGG? You despise Hops for his antics with Dawson? You no longer enjoy all of JMM's leave-it-all-in-the-ring battles because he fought Alvarado instead of Provodnikov? How bout Martinez? He avoided Golovkin to cash out on a "shot" Cotto? ...wait...wut?

You're just too core? Nobody gets a break, huh?

yeah it's annoying but everyone is doing it doe.


On topic and to stay keep things short.

1. Froch is a Super mw a good one at that and GGG has yet to show interest in moving up.
2. Yeah BH was a b*tch regarding dawson
3. I like Marquez, although circumstances are different. JMM became Provo's mandatory after he had lost to bradley. Which makes 0 sense to me. Marquez fought for the WW international(or some crap) belt against alvarado. Provo was and still is at 140.
4. Of course Martinez avoided GGG, what's not wrong about that?

[Beater_of_ass]

You are ******ed, I made a clear post saying how I don't condone canelo. I pointed out the differences between what cotto does and what canelo does and I automatically become a canelo fan. what? I said they're both reprehensible. Why do you find that so hard to understand? because it doesn't fit your narrative?

Again. let's do this again. I'm not a fan of canelo, I don't care what he does. I'm not excusing anything he does. What I keep on posting are replies to your flawed logic that canelo is the same as cotto which isn't even the case because one is the lineal champion and the other isn't they're not held to the same standard. Omg man seriously I told you this already. You need help.

See, more hypocrisy, I'll just quote you maybe if you look in the mirror you'll see how dumb you look right now.

From you:

Canelo was only given the shot because it made financial sense. He's not even campaigning at 160

You said that on just the last page. I'm not even going to dig through anything else. You contradicted yourself in what a 20 minute period? Again, hate on Cotto I won't reply to it again but if you hate on Cotto and defend ANY fighter for doing diva **** that makes you a hypocrite. Either demand integrity from all fighters and not just pick and choose who is in the right and wrong when it suits your needs.

Cotto should fight GGG, I have never denied that he shouldn't. He isn't going to though, we all know this. But he shouldn't be getting **** for a fight that isn't even signed that's just ******. Anyway, he'll be fighting Floyd over GGG and while ducking GGG, he's still going to end up facing the best fighter on the planet. I'm really not going to give him too much **** about it, I wouldn't give any fighter **** for trying to beat Floyd.

[-Johannes-]

See, more hypocrisy, I'll just quote you maybe if you look in the mirror you'll see how dumb you look right now.

From you:



You said that on just the last page. I'm not even going to dig through anything else. You contradicted yourself in what a 20 minute period? Again, hate on Cotto I won't reply to it again but if you hate on Cotto and defend ANY fighter for doing diva **** that makes you a hypocrite. Either demand integrity from all fighters and not just pick and choose who is in the right and wrong when it suits your needs.

Cotto should fight GGG, I have never denied that he shouldn't. He isn't going to though, we all know this. But he shouldn't be getting **** for a fight that isn't even signed that's just ******. Anyway, he'll be fighting Floyd over GGG and while ducking GGG, he's still going to end up facing the best fighter on the planet. I'm really not going to give him too much **** about it, I wouldn't give any fighter **** for trying to beat Floyd.

Well didn't he? People were interested in the fight. I wasn't a ridiculous match up and it was a licrative fight for Cotto's voluntary defense. I had no issue with that.
Also canelo doesn't campaing at 160 because he's fighting jr mws and they let him weight whatever he feels like it. Is it wrong? of course. To make things clearer canelo is still fighting within the 154 lb division he just gets away with fighting above the weight class for them same reason they're contemplating welterweights as possible cotto opponents.

How am I defending canelo? wtf is wrong with you?