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  • radioraheem
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    #71
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Yeah, and a world title fight can come close being cancelled on the night over the choice of boxing gloves, as we all know.
    The point is, choosing an agency is a matter of preference. Bob Arum prefers NSAC's random drug testing over VADA and USADA, as there is less conflict of interest. At the end of the day, they all just take samples and send to a WADA-accredited lab. VADA and USADA send to UCLA, NSAC sends to the one in Utah. All the same ****.

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    • kafkod
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      #72
      Originally posted by radioraheem
      Of course, being that they were no signed agreement, he doesn't have to do anything. It's Pascal's fault/mistake.

      What I'm saying is that if one party is unwilling to pay for testing, they should not have any say on what agency is used for the said testing. If they have any issues with the agency being chosen, then that means they want to be so much invested into the issue that they should pay for it themselves. Being unwilling to pay is indirectly or directly showing that you don't care too much about the testing at all. That you don't really want to have anything to do with it. But yet, you want to pick and choose and be vested into it... but you don't want to pay? Makes no sense!
      So if it was Pascal's fault/mistake, why are you saying that Kovalev should forfeit his right to a choice because of it?

      I repeat, there was nothing in the contract that said Kovalev had to undergo random testing at all, so who pays for it is irrelevant. He made a major concession to Pascal and had every right to choose his own agency, the same as Pascal did.

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      • kafkod
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        #73
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        The point is, choosing an agency is a matter of preference. Bob Arum prefers NSAC's random drug testing over VADA and USADA, as there is less conflict of interest. At the end of the day, they all just take samples and send to a WADA-accredited lab. VADA and USADA send to UCLA, NSAC sends to the one in Utah. All the same ****.
        Ok, so why not let Kovalev go with VADA, if that was what he wanted?

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        • HeroBando
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          #74
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          VADA too has failed in the past to forward results (Peterson). They knew for many weeks that he tested positive and didn't forward results to Commission until very last minute.

          Schaefer couldn't salvage the fight and GB lost a lot of money. For this same reason Duva also doesn't want random drug testing, because of the risk of money.
          Salvage the fight? Hope not, the card ok. But that's the risk you take. Importantly they notified the commission when the B sample failed. We already saw how orregularities can occur when the promoter is notified of failed A sample, see Morales

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          • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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            #75
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Theres barely a mention of Usada in the piece, not even close to throwing them under the bus. Nice attempt at backtracking, but fail just the same

            Why do you suppose Pascal rejects Vada? Memo?
            Nice backtrack? I said it in my original post dummy. You just have a third grade reading level.
            To answer your last question, I know several people that are skeptical of vada due to Conte.

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            • HeroBando
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              #76
              Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
              Nice backtrack? I said it in my original post dummy. You just have a third grade reading level.
              To answer your last question, I know several people that are skeptical of vada due to Conte.
              You said justify this by throwing Usada under the bus and referred to the article. There's a single mention of it in the article, totally value neutral, nowhere close to under the bus. Fail, but if it helps you vent butthurt...

              Vada busted Conte client Berto. That should dispel any doubts, esp given that no other agency ever prevented a cheat from entering the ring

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              • ManAnimalX
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                #77
                And Pascal was squawking about PED Testing for what?

                smh.

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                • Bep3373
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IBEN
                  So what. Extra drug testing only became a big deal after Floyd made it a big deal.

                  Real fighters don't care about that ****.
                  You sound extremely ****** ....real fighters don't need to cheat ...thank god Floyd did it now 70 percent plus are saying the same ...we need testing stay up with technology

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                  • lane99
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                    #79
                    It should be a serious topic. So it's unfortunate that Pascal keeps co-opting it for these disingenuous publicity stunts.

                    And it might not be a coincidence that he does them before every fight he knows he's going to lose.

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                    • Danieltapia
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                      #80
                      For all we know, both these guys need to carefully work their way around drug tests. Just sit back and enjoy the fight.

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