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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #61
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    What don't you understand? Pascal asked for the testing, he offered to pay for it, Kathy seriously offered VADA to do it because it was cheaper even for him... And Pascal turned it down, why are we still blaming Duva?

    You're made because she didn't want to pay for it? It's not her responsibility. Next time Pascal shouldn't sign a contract without a testing clause. Kathy had no legal liability to modify the contract to allow for testing, YET, she was still agreeing to ALL of Pascals terms except one thing. Who did the testing... Pascal was the one that had that problem, no one else.

    There is only one person to blame for no testing...

    It's not her responsibility? So why is it her responsibility to choose who does the testing?

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #62
      Originally posted by Beercules
      Pascal is the one pointing the PED finger. Why didn't he request it from the beginning?

      Oh well.
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      Because no one asked for it... Pascal did after it was signed. Even though Kathy was within her right to say **** you, you already signed it, they were still willing to work with him on the testing. He didn't like not being able to use his one testing program so no one is getting tested.

      I can't help but blame Pascal for signing the dotted line then. Who signs a contract with no testing?
      GUys did you read the tweets? Kathy asserted it was her right to choose the testing protocol since her guy is the champ. If she believes this, she should have exercised it up front. SHe didn't.

      SHe sent the contract out without any testing in it. She was being cheap and trying to maximize her money.

      I undertand the points being made about Pascal, but why is DUva getting a pass for being cheap. She could have avoided all of this up front.

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        #63
        Calling Pascal's bluff would be offering to pay for both fighters to do VADA testing.

        Duva won't loosen her purse-strings to do that though.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #64
          Originally posted by elgu
          The point is simple. If a specific type of testing ask for it in negotiations. If you are going to then go in a smear campaign asking for tests when you didn't in negotiation then the test should be VADA because they work. If Pascal wants the test then it better be the right one.
          we will have to disagree. if you claim its your right to choose the testing protocol, do so when you send over the contract to the opponent. Don't try and save money and then use the media to shift the argument.

          You are essentially saying Pascal is suspect for choosing his WADA, if that's the case, Kov is just as suspect that he didn't ask for testing up front. And no, I don't think Kov is dirty.

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          • Beercules
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            GUys did you read the tweets? Kathy asserted it was her right to choose the testing protocol since her guy is the champ. If she believes this, she should have exercised it up front. SHe didn't.

            SHe sent the contract out without any testing in it. She was being cheap and trying to maximize her money.

            I undertand the points being made about Pascal, but why is DUva getting a pass for being cheap. She could have avoided all of this up front.
            And when Kovalev requested VADA, what happened? Didn't Pascal say he is willing to pay for both fighters? What changed?

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            • Muh Du-rag
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              #66
              Look at all these ******s on here feeling insecure about a white man chopping down his division.

              People don't care that Pascal will be roided up, anything to bring "Da threat" down.

              The man is refusing VADA testing with a steroid guru chemist in his corner, the writing is on the wall, but you don't care if Pascal is juiced up, you just want to see Kovalev put down a peg.

              Remember how u clowns jumped on the supposed "refusal" of testing by team Kovalev, when he accepted you you as quiet as a rat pissing on cotton.

              Now that Pascal is refusing testing you duck duck duck "it's okay doe, he ain't cheatin' doe"

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #67
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                This was explained to you multiple times. Duva doesnt believe in this kind of unregulated testing. But since Pascal insists...
                we can agree to disagree. I think Kathy is simply being cheap and didn't put it in because her side would have to pay for it.

                She believes in testing so long as she doesn't have to pay for it.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  we can agree to disagree. I think Kathy is simply being cheap and didn't put it in because her side would have to pay for it.

                  She believes in testing so long as she doesn't have to pay for it.
                  Not really, shes been explicit on this from the getgo. This type of adhoc testing is a sham, but theyre willing to accommodate.

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                  • Light_Speed
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Are you trolling? She clearly doesn't want to lose money by paying for drug testing herself.

                    If she isn't going to go into her own pocket to pay for it, why does she then get to decide what agency is used?

                    If she wants to use VADA, then stop being a cheapskate and pay for it yourself. Offer to pay for both guys to use VADA if it's so cheap then we'll really see Pascal's bluff called.
                    She doesn't particularly want to do random testing, but IF random testing is to be done then she'll only accept VADA because that's what her fighter wants. It's not complicated. What's surprising (and su****ious) is Pascal's refusal to use the cheaper and more proven method. What makes you think Pascal would accept VADA if Duva offered to pay for it?

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      And when Kovalev requested VADA, what happened? Didn't Pascal say he is willing to pay for both fighters? What changed?
                      Pascal wants to use his usual testing. He doesn't want to be told to use VADA. I get your problem with that.

                      But Kov requested VADA only after Pascal requested testing. Why wasn't it in the contract initially. especially given what Kathy said in the tweet.

                      Pascal didn't get his bluff called, Kathy got exposed for being cheap and then tried to flip it the only way she could. She didn't say "I'll pay for it" she said-"you pay for VADA."

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