Tyson Fury has got more talent than Wladimir Klitschko

[billeau2]

I must be watching a different Tyson Fury. I see him and think "meh, he's OK." I just don't see the world class guy that some of his fans see.

There is something to this because Fury has a quality that a lot of responsive fighters, fighers that adapt in the ring have: he tends to fight to the level of his competition. But he does show technical understanding and I think if he were pushed hard in a fight like haye of Vlad it would be more obvious. In the meantime if you have an interest watch some of his tapes, you can see good movement skills, he throws all manner of punches (even on himself! haha) can fight at any range and knows how to throw his weight around and grapple well. The Cunningham fight is interesting in this regard, yes he screws up and gets put on his duff but he also shows that he adapts well and can use his advantages when he sees they bare fruit.

[Japanese Badass]

Someones been watching too much dwyer.

[Weltschmerz]

Leg work? really? I know realize why there is such a schism regarding Vlad: there must be 3 klit brothers two named vlad because the Vlad I know is not known for his legwork by any stretch.

Vladimir is light on his feet and moves very well for a man his size.

[f15bone]

Watching Fury for the first time I remember thinking that he was much better than I had anticipated...another thing I like is the improvement he shows with each new outing...

As for him being more talented than Wlad...I wouldn't go THAT far...Now he certainly has his attributes but in comparison to Klits skillset I think he comes up short...

The only thing I really see him doing better at this point is putting shots together...His combination punching appears to be better but I wonder if that's more by necessity (because he lacks bigtime power) or because he's so good at it...I'm not convinced Wlad couldn't do the same if he felt the need...

Power, defense, strength, & accuracy are all attributes that Wlad best Fury in IMO...

While I definitely don't see Fury as some big plodding oaf...he ain't the heavyweight version of Sugar Ray Robinson either....

WLAD'S SKILLS>>>>>> FURY'S SKILLS

[beez721]

He beat Chisora a lot easier than his brother did lol.

vitali was old and reportedly had a bad shoulder in that fight

[Jedi Vader]

Everything he says is usually guided to make Wlad look better.

This x10

I'm sorry but Tyson Fury looked like **** in his last fight. I can't stand people saying "he boxed masterfully." He had a zombie punching bag in front of him that he held up for 10 rounds. He played paddy cake with Chisora until Derrick quit. Wow, what talent on display

This x20

Fury is one of the most woefully inept frauds in heavyweight history.

I cannot think of one decent, let alone great attribute, this buffoon possesses.

[beez721]

wlad is clearly more naturally talented imo. I think fury is tougher tho and a better fighter than alot of people give him credit for. he moves well for a big man and has good variety in his combinations. I just dont think he has the explosiveness to get to wlad

[billeau2]

Someones been watching too much dwyer.

If the shoe fits...wear it. Dwyer is right about fighters that adapt in the ring, its a good point and one that a lot of so called pundits neglect. Now, especially lately Dwyer says a lot of other things that are not so right! This is a man who predicted Romney would win by a landslide, thats Elroy territory

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

If the shoe fits...wear it. Dwyer is right about fighters that adapt in the ring, its a good point and one that a lot of so called pundits neglect. Now, especially lately Dwyer says a lot of other things that are not so right! This is a man who predicted Romney would win by a landslide, thats Elroy territory

Dwyer is quite often wrong but he definitely got a point here with Tyson Fury.

Thiw doesn't mean however that Fury would be the favourite against Klitschko because boxing is far from being just about talent.

For instance, I can find you a 6'5 24 years old man, that never practiced boxing, that could be potentially more naturally talented than Wladimir Klitschko.

I noticed that Klitschko is not that stiff anymore which is quite surprising for his age, he's got some really nice movements too!

[Elroy1]

Simply put, Fury is slicker , brings more variety to the table and has a much more developed ( but sometimes clumsy) defense.

There is a 10cm reach disadvantage for Wladimir in this fight, and he is indeed 8 cm shorter.

Fury is no Wach, and James Ai Bashir must be DELUSIONAL to say that he was more worried about Wach than he would be against Fury.

Fury is not slicker, he does not move as gracefully as Wladimir does, Wladimir is heaps slick for 250lbs, only Lennox LEwis moved more fluidly imo at that size perhaps. I don't think Wladimir has ever been stiff.

Yes he has a greater variety than Wladimir, but as stated that is perhaps one of Wladimir's STRONG suits, he has completely refined his style to keep what works and discard what doesn't.

It's kind of like this... You claim Fury has a better natural talent than Wladimir right? So the question becomes, "How long would it take Fury to become as competent as Wladimir in his respective career?"

My answer would be "Longer than Wladimir".