Bob Arum: Brandon Rios, Timothy Bradley and K-9 Bundrage The 3 Names We Gave Cotto"

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  • AnimalisticMeth
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    #81
    Originally posted by jas
    If you're gonna take a shot at Bernard Hopkins, come correct about it

    When it's all said and done, bhop will also be remembered for becoming the oldest champion to win a title, surpassing foremans record. He did this against a bigger man - pascal.

    Trinidad punched harder than Bhop anyway. And bhop weighed 156 vs Oscar then went up and fought much bigger guy tarver not long afterwards.

    Hopkins always fought his mandatories or went for the biggest names. Trinidad was a unification fight and part of a tournament. Oscar was a unification fight.

    Tell cotto to fight a unification fight at middleweight or vacate.

    Don't compare diva cotto to bhop.

    Hopkins took 2 days to make kova fight, another unification fight

    Cotto the diva ducked Canelo.

    Pathetic.
    Cotto has done that his whole career. The men started at 140 pounds and weigh in closer to 135 in the start of his career his moved up 4 divisions and is the lieneal MW Champ. He has a voluntary defense and he can fight whoever he choses before Golovkin becomes his mandatory. Is no different than Floyd fighting Marquez or Hopkins fighting De La Hoya or Hagler fighting Leonard. It happens people move up and the champs face them over ,more established guys in their divisions because it brings money.

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    • jas
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      #82
      Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
      Cotto has done that his whole career. The men started at 140 pounds and weigh in closer to 135 in the start of his career his moved up 4 divisions and is the lieneal MW Champ. He has a voluntary defense and he can fight whoever he choses before Golovkin becomes his mandatory. Is no different than Floyd fighting Marquez or Hopkins fighting De La Hoya or Hagler fighting Leonard. It happens people move up and the champs face them over ,more established guys in their divisions because it brings money.
      You're comparing hagler Leonard to bundrage cotto? Lmao

      He just fought a guy with one knee, hardly took any punches and you are fine with him wasting a Puerto Rican day fight against these guys?

      Why is everyone acting like cotto is 25 years old?

      He is approaching the end of his career

      And he is one of the handful of ppv stars left in the sport
      And he's choosing to fight severely disadvantaged guys

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      • US Dirk Killer
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        #83
        Originally posted by Wesker115
        I can't really see the big deal, boxing is a moneymaking business. Who else is going to help Cotto fill The Garden? Billy Jo Saunders?!

        Rios vs Cotto is a good fight.
        Are you implying Rios would put more people in the Theater than GGG?

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        • TOBYLEE1
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          #84
          That is all TR has for Cotto to sell.

          None of them make sense, I would go with K9 because he is simply the bigger guy. I have no interest on the other two that have never even fought at 154.

          The good ol TR recycling of their fighters. And they will sell it like Cotto's biggest threat to date

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          • icha
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            #85
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Ok. SO I guess its K-9. ugggh.

            As for Canelo-thats not an excuse IMO. He easily could've waited. It seems he doesn't want to fight Cotto-he wants to fight cotto only if he can be the star. Cotto has just as many options.

            Maybe coke head and canelo should have cut out all the "anti Floyd/pro Mexican mad because neither one of us could beat floyd" BS and just made the cotto fight.

            does Canelo know MSG is the mecca of boxing? Getting a win there isn't bad for your career FFS!!
            they were waiting until found out cotto wasnt waiting for them...that was the reason for that strange dateline on cotto.. when you find out after months of negotiating that you are nothing but a back up plan then is time to move on..
            cotto was trying to play smart and use canelo to get a floyd fight, it almost worked but moonves had other plans...

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            • Hougigo
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              #86
              Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
              That is all TR has for Cotto to sell.

              None of them make sense, I would go with K9 because he is simply the bigger guy. I have no interest on the other two that have never even fought at 154.

              The good ol TR recycling of their fighters. And they will sell it like Cotto's biggest threat to date
              If it's Bradley, they'll sell him on prior championship experience and resume.

              If it's Rios, they'll sell it on.... he always comes to fight or some shit and how getting hit in the face is his ******.

              If It's K-9....probably sell him on his nickname and say he's as fierce as a dog.... or that he's a social justice warrior who beat up a child ******er in his last fight... I don't know

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #87
                Originally posted by icha
                they were waiting until found out cotto wasnt waiting for them...that was the reason for that strange dateline on cotto.. when you find out after months of negotiating that you are nothing but a back up plan then is time to move on..
                cotto was trying to play smart and use canelo to get a floyd fight, it almost worked but moonves had other plans...
                Not in this situation. Canelo will always come 2nd if an opponent can fight Floyd or Manny, same way other guys would come 2nd if you get a Canelo fight, the economics just dictate this.

                Cotto wasn't using Canelo. Canelo/ODH were using Cotto to get the May 2 date from Floyd, only Bob strung coke fiend along. ODH then caught feelings because he got played and couldn't get his fighter what he said he could.

                Instead, ODH could have just told Canelo the truth-that Floyd spanked his ass and as such, he isn't getting the date. One way you can get it back-beat Cotto in june in MSG and then you have the MW title that Floyd wants. You can get a rematch and if you win you get a 3rd fight. win those and Floyd either retires or you get the date by beating him.

                But instead they played the ******ed "pro Mexican" crap that made anyone with any sense ask one simple question-if it means that much to you as you say, why aren't you fighting in Mexico?

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                • Deevel916
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                  #88
                  Help me understand this. According to Cotto's own manager, Cotto turned down Canelo because he wasn't happy with the financials of the fight yet here he is about to fight one of these guys for HALF of what he would have made vs Canelo!?

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Not in this situation. Canelo will always come 2nd if an opponent can fight Floyd or Manny, same way other guys would come 2nd if you get a Canelo fight, the economics just dictate this.

                    Cotto wasn't using Canelo. Canelo/ODH were using Cotto to get the May 2 date from Floyd, only Bob strung coke fiend along. ODH then caught feelings because he got played and couldn't get his fighter what he said he could.

                    Instead, ODH could have just told Canelo the truth-that Floyd spanked his ass and as such, he isn't getting the date. One way you can get it back-beat Cotto in june in MSG and then you have the MW title that Floyd wants. You can get a rematch and if you win you get a 3rd fight. win those and Floyd either retires or you get the date by beating him.

                    But instead they played the ******ed "pro Mexican" crap that made anyone with any sense ask one simple question-if it means that much to you as you say, why aren't you fighting in Mexico?
                    I was fully prepared to grill the Canelo fanboys once again, but it's such a great sight to see Dunn do it. Keep trying Icha and company, the second Floyd/Pac got made it showed how ****** Oscar and Canelo were by walking away from a Cotto fight.

                    Oscar and Canelo care more about sticking it to Floyd than they care about earning a legit victory.

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                    • Deevel916
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                      #90
                      Canelo vs Kirkland > Cotto vs Rios/Bradley/K9.

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