Why does Ward-stans want GGG to move up?

[LacedUp]

Froch beat Kessler twice on many people's cards. The only reason the first fight was close was because Froch flew in late due to the volcanic ash cloud and the judges were already in the Sauerland's back pocket. Froch showed who was better by clearly winning the rematch

This is some bs if I ever heard it. Froch lost to kessler on most people's scorecard, except yours it seems. Both fights were close, in fact, equally close - the scorecards were identical almost.

The excuse with Froch is pathetic really. You're just regurgitating what Froch has said. I take it, you also believe Froch lost to Ward because his wife were back in UK for the fight or whatever his excuse was for that loss.

Maybe Kessler had something wrong in the second fight. He just doesn't give excuses. I suggest you do the same, it's more than lame.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This is some bs if I ever heard it. Froch lost to kessler on most people's scorecard, except yours it seems. Both fights were close, in fact, equally close - the scorecards were identical almost.

The excuse with Froch is pathetic really. You're just regurgitating what Froch has said. I take it, you also believe Froch lost to Ward because his wife were back in UK for the fight or whatever his excuse was for that loss.

Maybe Kessler had something wrong in the second fight. He just doesn't give excuses. I suggest you do the same, it's more than lame.

The Volcanic Ash Cloud was an actual thing. It's not an excuse. People other than Froch were aware of this. Either way, Froch probably wasn't going to get the decision on a Sauerland card where the judges were handpicked. I'm pretty sure one of them was from Reid-Ottke so we know what was going on there.

The first fight was close and could have gone either way. I had Froch winning 7-5. A lot of people had Froch winning too.

Froch clearly won the second fight. He pissed the first six rounds or so. He let Kessler back into it a bit late on but it was a clear victory. Not a single soul thinks Kessler won that fight.

[LacedUp]

The Volcanic Ash Cloud was an actual thing. It's not an excuse. People other than Froch were aware of this. Either way, Froch probably wasn't going to get the decision on a Sauerland card where the judges were handpicked. I'm pretty sure one of them was from Reid-Ottke so we know what was going on there.

The first fight was close and could have gone either way. I had Froch winning 7-5. A lot of people had Froch winning too.

Froch clearly won the second fight. He pissed the first six rounds or so. He let Kessler back into it a bit late on but it was a clear victory. Not a single soul thinks Kessler won that fight.

I know it was. I was delayed myself for the fight - a fight I was sitting on press row for, where pretty much everyone thought Kessler had won.

The excuse wasn't the ash cloud, it was that he thought the fight was off meaning he gained a couple of pounds and had to take it off. Well the same happened to Kessler? There was no difference.

Hand picked please. You don't even believe that yourself. There was no outrageous scorecards in that fight.

Froch clearly won the first 3 in their second fight. After that, it was an even fight all the way to the end. I had it 7-5 Froch. Some people had it a draw, but I felt Froch was a deserved winner.

However, Kessler was clearly not the same as he was in 2010. So he didn't prove he was the better guy overall at all.

They should have a 3rd fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I know it was. I was delayed myself for the fight - a fight I was sitting on press row for, where pretty much everyone thought Kessler had won.

The excuse wasn't the ash cloud, it was that he thought the fight was off meaning he gained a couple of pounds and had to take it off. Well the same happened to Kessler? There was no difference.

Hand picked please. You don't even believe that yourself. There was no outrageous scorecards in that fight.

Froch clearly won the first 3 in their second fight. After that, it was an even fight all the way to the end. I had it 7-5 Froch. Some people had it a draw, but I felt Froch was a deserved winner.

However, Kessler was clearly not the same as he was in 2010. So he didn't prove he was the better guy overall at all.

They should have a 3rd fight.

Roger Tilleman scored it 9 rounds to 3 for Kessler

He was the infamous ref who warned Robin Reid for punching Ottke in the face. His scorecard was already written before the fight began.

Like I said, do a poll and you'll get many people who felt Froch won the first fight. Not a single credible person believes Kessler won the second.

[BattlingNelson]

Ward and Froch are clearly Kessler's biggest fights. Everyone knows that. You're trying to save face under this fairy tale that Kessler is some brave warrior.

We where talking about Money which is the reason you think Kessler would come back. You where proved wrong (again).

Froch beat Kessler twice on many people's cards.

Your Card is not many Cards. Not even if you score it 100 times. The overwhelming majority here on boxingscene had Kessler winning. Stop repeating Froch's BS. You are looking more and more foolish.

The only reason the first fight was close was because Froch flew in late due to the volcanic ash cloud and the judges were already in the Sauerland's back pocket.

Source for that please.

Froch showed who was better by clearly winning the rematch.

It's one all. Why does that mean so much to you that Froch is 1-1 against a guy you claim is a secondrater? I don't get it.

There are still plenty of fights at 168 for Ward which I want to see. 168 is a very talent-laden division especially with some new blood coming up.

Ward has fought no live body in 3 years and now there's new blood in the division.

Why will you not give GGG the same latitude as you give Ward? Why not have him waiting 3 years in the division fighting Cans without seeking better challengers by going up?

Why the double standard?

Ward hasn't fought in a while due to inactivity, if he'd been fighting the kind of pointless fights Golovkin has been fighting then I'd probably be urging him to move up now.

He hasn't fought anyone in .... you know..... how many years was it?

160 is a ghost town. I understand Golovkin staying there if he's going to get the Cotto fight or fight for another belt but other than that, what's the point?

Prestige? Unifications? Why did Ward stay after cleaning out?

I don't want to see more Murrays and Rubios.

But you want to see more Rodriguez's and Sartisons while Ward Waits for something that might never happen?

Why the double standard?

Ward-Golovkin should happen next year. I want that and most true boxing fans want that

Yes.

[jas]

If I was ggg I would wait until WBC force the fight with cotto or he vacates, win the lineal title and then go up and face a smw and call out ward whilst he is still on his lay off

That way it looks like ward is ducking him and Bernard Hopkins record of 20 mw defences will remain intact

[BattlingNelson]

Roger Tilleman scored it 9 rounds to 3 for Kessler

Adelaide Byrd scored 10-2 Froch in the second fight.

He was the infamous ref who warned Robin Reid for punching Ottke in the face.

A myth. You should know better, but you don't because it doesn't fit your foul-proven agenda.

His scorecard was already written before the fight began.

Which makes Byrd's the same or...???

Like I said, do a poll and you'll get many people who felt Froch won the first fight. Not a single credible person believes Kessler won the second.

A lot had it a Draw though or 7-5 ie razorthin.

[Suckmedry]

This site is getting to the most annoying levels I've ever seen. Nearly everyones a hater of certain fighters, a rabid fanboy or both.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

We where talking about Money which is the reason you think Kessler would come back. You where proved wrong (again).

I haven't been proved wrong. Kessler wants the two biggest money fights out there or he won't fight. The guy is a diva not a warrior.

Your Card is not many Cards. Not even if you score it 100 times. The overwhelming majority here on boxingscene had Kessler winning. Stop repeating Froch's BS. You are looking more and more foolish.

Source for that please.


It's one all. Why does that mean so much to you that Froch is 1-1 against a guy you claim is a secondrater? I don't get it.

Like I said to LacedUp. Do a poll. You'll get a strong number of people who thought Froch won the first fight which was a 7-5 shot either way.

Not a single credible person will have Kessler winning the second fight. It was a clear victory for Froch.

Ward has fought no live body in 3 years and now there's new blood in the division.

Why will you not give GGG the same latitude as you give Ward? Why not have him waiting 3 years in the division fighting Cans without seeking better challengers by going up?

Why the double standard?

He hasn't fought anyone in .... you know..... how many years was it?



Prestige? Unifications? Why did Ward stay after cleaning out?



But you want to see more Rodriguez's and Sartisons while Ward Waits for something that might never happen?

Why the double standard?


Yes.

There's no double standard. Ward's career has stalled because of outside factors. You keep saying he hasn't fought in so many years as if he has chosen that route. Once again, this boring excuse is going to fly out the window when he gets back in the ring again so why even bring it up?

If Ward can't get the Golovkin fight within the next year or can't get a big meaningful fight then he should move up. Same if Golovkin can't get Cotto or anyone at middleweight.

I will say that Ward can retire now and have had a very respectable career. Borderline Hall of Fame.

Could we say the same about the older Golovkin? Not a chance.

[BattlingNelson]

I haven't been proved wrong.

Yes you have, but it doesn't hinder you from stating the exact same trash again:

Kessler wants the two biggest money fights out there or he won't fight. The guy is a diva not a warrior.

Why is that? Are you:

A: Very ******?
B: Unable to understand simple sentences?
C: trolling and laughing behind your screen?
D: A combination of A, B and C?

There's no double standard. Ward's career has stalled because of outside factors. You keep saying he hasn't fought in so many years as if he has chosen that route. Once again, this boring excuse is going to fly out the window when he gets back in the ring again so why even bring it up?

He has chosen the terrible opponents that he HAS fought though and he has turned down offers that he himself asked for!

If Ward can't get the Golovkin fight within the next year or can't get a big meaningful fight then he should move up. Same if Golovkin can't get Cotto or anyone at middleweight.

So Ward gets 4 years while Golovkin gets 1.

Double standard. Again.

See A, B, C and D.

But it's ok Dirk. You have a double standard. We all know that by now.