Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[Spoon23]

There is so much truth in this picture. How can there be a fight when one wants to be road runner...

[AllEyesOpen]

Pacman lost on the cards. Already done. Boxing's different than other sports when it comes to scoring. It's on the judges not a touchdown or ball in goal\hoop. If it wasn't for the slow motion I would have never seen pacman get in as much as he did. It might be that I'm getting old. In the NBA they need slomotion just to see if a foot is on the 3pt. line. It helps sees things clearer but boxing shouldn't be judged that way. No ones butthurt just a little more impressed than others.

Pacquiao fought his best fight, and had Mayweather fighting his best, both fighters were trying their hardest to make as few mistakes as possible as the other would capitalize. I don't need slomo to see that, but it was clear that Pacquiao was the fighter who was giving Mayweather more openings and allowing Mayweather to control the range and dictate the pace.

You can look closer at certain exchanges and appreciate them in slow motion, but at least in my opinion, slomo has never changed my opinion of the outcome of a boxing match.

One can appreciate a fighters performance in slow motion, but the butthurt fans are the ones trying to override history using highly edited videos or videos with very questionable punch counters.

[johnm is...]

Poor Manny. He's not even good enough to beat Spoon's admission of a 'running, ducking, coward'

That's gotta sting.

[BrometheusBob.]

Pacman lost on the cards. Already done. Boxing's different than other sports when it comes to scoring. It's on the judges not a touchdown or ball in goal\hoop. If it wasn't for the slow motion I would have never seen pacman get in as much as he did. It might be that I'm getting old. In the NBA they need slomotion just to see if a foot is on the 3pt. line. It helps sees things clearer but boxing shouldn't be judged that way. No ones butthurt just a little more impressed than others.

Good post. Here take this

[DeadLikeMe]

Poor Manny. He's not even good enough to beat Spoon's admission of a 'running, ducking, coward'

That's gotta sting.

That's what I've been wondering. If Floyd is a fraud, that must mean fighters like Manny suck at the sport if they can't even beat a fraud.

[Johnwoo8686]

Look at Larry Holmes, someone who is considered one of the most dominant heavyweight champions of all time. Here is doing what Floyd did against Manny but even more so than Floyd did. And Tyson STILL knocked him out inside four rounds. Don't blame Floyd for fighting cautiously, blame Manny for not being able to do **** to neutralize it.

[GOD-FR33]

funny guy............

Pacquiao fought his best fight, and had Mayweather fighting his best, both fighters were trying their hardest to make as few mistakes as possible as the other would capitalize. I don't need slomo to see that, but it was clear that Pacquiao was the fighter who was giving Mayweather more openings and allowing Mayweather to control the range and dictate the pace.

You can look closer at certain exchanges and appreciate them in slow motion, but at least in my opinion, slomo has never changed my opinion of the outcome of a boxing match.

One can appreciate a fighters performance in slow motion, but the butthurt fans are the ones trying to override history using highly edited videos or videos with very questionable punch counters.

Good for you. You'd be a terrible judge then. You would reward a fighter like Floyd points he didn't deserve and punish a fighter like Manny for his clean effective counter-punching, defense, and effective aggressiveness. Smh. Boxing is a joke and NEEDS a new system, ASAP! It's already lost the credibility war because of Floyd. He's bad news for the sport and acts like a Mob Boss who has too much control of the sport. FACTS. If they had fought anywhere but Vegas, Floyd loses that fight. PERIOD. He fought scared and looked ordinary. Now, why was that? I guess it had nothing to do with Manny Pacquaio's greatness, ey?

[AllEyesOpen]

Good for you. You'd be a terrible judge then. You would reward a fighter like Floyd points he didn't deserve and punish a fighter like Manny for his clean effective counter-punching, defense, and effective aggressiveness. Smh. Boxing is a joke and NEEDS a new system, ASAP! It's already lost the credibility war because of Floyd. He's bad news for the sport and acts like a Mob Boss who has too much control of the sport. FACTS. If they had fought anywhere but Vegas, Floyd loses that fight. PERIOD. He fought scared and looked ordinary. Now, why was that? I guess it had nothing to do with Manny Pacquaio's greatness, ey?

Wow, such a large font, and bold. Yes, I do think Pacquiao put forth his best effort and no, I don't think he was injured but I as well as many fighters, judges and boxing commentators and experts saw it the same, Pacquiao said it himself he tried his best but it was not good enough. I respect Pacquiao and his accomplishments but I can't deny reality.

[Spoon23]

Look at Larry Holmes, someone who is considered one of the most dominant heavyweight champions of all time. Here is doing what Floyd did against Manny but even more so than Floyd did. And Tyson STILL knocked him out inside four rounds. Don't blame Floyd for fighting cautiously, blame Manny for not being able to do **** to neutralize it.

Key word, 'Heavyweight'

Heavyweight's are heavy lumbering giants who spend gasoline like a v12 engine. They tire after firing a few shots, resulting to clinching when they tire.They have heavy punches although strong, tends to tire them up quickly. They have 12 rounds to fight and they need to conserve energy, hence, the clinching to keep them going so they can last 12 rounds.

Clinching in general is a bad thing, but the worst clinching is the boxer's who clinch to prevent an exchange from happening. You prevent a punch by evading or blocking with your arms never should be through clinching. That's cowardly. Clinching is mainly done to conserve energy, especially for big lumbering men. Floyd is a welterweight. He is lighter on his feet, can punch, block more faster than a heavyweight, and burns energy a lot lesser than a heavy weight. So your analogy is lame and inaccurate as usual.

Clinching every time a fighter traps an opponent is cheap exploitation. The ref does the work for him an bails him out. It is not the job of the ref to bail him out. That is for the fighter to find away.

Basically there's a loop hole being exploited like how floyd has mastered it lol

The way clinching is allowed to be exploited, it removes one of the essential aspects of boxing, INSIDE FIGHTING. When the referee bails him out, the fighter who clinches, and the one attacking loses all the hard work that he put in especially when on the ropes. that's just bad boxing.



Floyd perfected the loop hole of clinching. PHD in hugging.

Why?

Clinching in MMA is worlds apart from clinching in boxing. In MMA, you can strike from the clinch, go for takedowns, or in extremely rare cases, attempt a submission. The clinch is a transitional phase between free striking and groundwork. In boxing, the clinch serves virtually no purpose but to get the ref to break you apart and artificially create a safe space.

In one sport, clinching is a legitimate strategy, In the other, it's gaming the system.

This is what's wrong in boxing.

Exhibit A:

[Spoon23]

Hugging thy name is Floyd.

Can't believe this dude is a p4p lol