Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[Spoon23]

Seeing you flowmos squirm like little girls in here winded over what I say.

Deep down I'm pretty convinced you guys know I'm talking the truth, otherwise I won't be hated by all of you flowmos in here hehehe!

Hated by flowmos = I have exposed the truth / delivered on point

Too much evidence to support Pac's situation. And too much evidence to support Floyd is a vagina haha

PRICELESS!

Carry on brothas! Oh and btw, it's a free world. Those who don't want to be on this thread. All you have to do is not click on it. Poof problem solved. Some of you dumbos keep repeating why debate over it. To those who don't want to be in here Then don't lol

All you have to is stop going in here.

[JaYDeuce11]

Yea that dude spoon needs to give it up! Dude i am a full fledged filipino, my parents were born and raised in Manila. Theyve been watching boxing since Muhammad Ali's thriller in manilla.
We all got rooms and flights and MGM closed circuit tickets to watch our boy Pacquiao win...
BUT HE LOST!!! Give it up Pacquiao fans, our boy let us down and didnt go all out like what got him to the top. All that he still has his killer instinct b.s. was nonsense. My parents 100% Filipino and delusional both even said Pac LOST.

Its been more than a month now guys let it go. Both men got paid and made monetary history, but NOT boxing history. They put on a sparring show, not a fight for history nor fans

[Spoon23]

Where is the science? boxing is now officially not a sport its how to cheat and get away with it lol

This video is what's wrong with boxing. Clinching has to be prevented or minimized by implementing stricter rules that will prevent this lame way of fighting. Boxing is about punching and evading while trying to hurt the other guy at the same time, It is not trying to find the right time to hug when there is suppose to be action that should be taking place. Defusing action by constant clinching because the fighter has a vagina, is what will ruin boxing. Boxing should learn from this. More action is why epic fights are remembered.

It's a purest sport of pugilism and yet boxers like floyd has and will exploit in how to get away from what boxing is all about.

floyd will be known as the greatest biatch in boxing forever and thats fine with us no rematch then... thats just a fact of life that floyd has to take.

[ADP02]

That is not concrete evidence. In fact, there was a sparring partner who said he was not aware and did not see any injury. HBO also stated they were unaware of any injury even though they had cameras and were present during training camp.

The Commission did not grant the medication not because he didn't fill the check-box by the way. It was because they had no concrete evidence proving for a fact that he was injured. Hearsay does not prove anything for a fact.

First of all, you agreed that Manny was injured in the fight. So it really does not matter if you don't believe there was an injury beforehand.

but just to say

You have yet to show any evidence that Manny was not injured before the fight. All you have is a sparring partner that was not aware but nobody saying that Manny was not hurt and that it was all a lie. Big, big difference! You can't even get a quote from the commissions nor USADA or anyone saying that they do not believe that Manny was injured.

On the other hand, there are quotes of the commissions being aware of the injury prior to the fight(spoke to Manny's team and doctors), USADA knew about the medication and the injury(investigated and spoke to Manny's doctors twice), sparring partners, doctors, yet you still trying to say that there was nothing. Thanks for the laugh. For you it was all coincidence that there was all that talk beforehand and later Manny having surgery to the same right shoulder.

Also, a sparring partner saying what was said below is good evidence and not considered hearsay. Just because another sparring partner didn't know about it doesn't mean that others didn't. That's like saying that because 2 judges didn't see a punch land that the 3rd judge saw then it didn't land.

"I just want to fill everyone in on all the rumors! We were asked not to mention anything to anyone but Yes Manny got hurt during this camp with his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad! So bad his sparring partners including myself were asked to go home a few weeks out before the actual fight, which means a lot of work he could have put in for this fight was brought to a halt due to the fact that he could not spar really anymore and didnt wanna mess it up more than he already had..........

..... If everyone knew what I knew you would be loved even more than how you are now! Thank you again for the experience and making me apart of this historic event memories I will cherish forever! No excuses at all being made the injury was real!" - Dashon Johnson




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[ADP02]

He was so subtly awesome and dominating Floyd, he even gave up lead foot positioning for the entire match and still won one-handed! Is this really what you're going to tell your kids?

Manny is a much more awesome story without you guys lying for him. A guy who came from **** who fought for everything he has is now is dedicating his life to trying to make sure no children have the **** upbringing he did. Manny is a legit superhero...you're not.

I see that I touched a Floyd fans nerve. Sorry about that.

You are not seeing what I'm seeing. That's OK.

You can't deny that Floyd was required to do the fouling that he did defensive wise. That was Floyd's only resort.
One armed Manny didn't have to do all that fouling and still managed to get Floyd to throw nothing of significance except for those "touch" jabs that you must have counted as big big scoring for Floyd.

[ADP02]

Dude, why are you pretending to be ignorant of what has been stated a billion times already. Mayweather had a very vocal discussion in the corner during the fight about his shoulder injury. His shoulder was being massaged during the fight.

Again, did Number Forty Eight ever discuss the injury during the fight? Did the corner ever seem to do anything to relieve the pain he felt in a "severely torn rotator cuff?"

It's not just because Mayweather said it. It's because he showed signs of it DURING THE FIGHT, unlike Number Forty Eight.

You Floyd fans need to get your stories straight. Some of you are saying it happened only during the fight while some do not believe it even happened and there was no surgery.

The cameras were not always on Manny's corner. Manny's corner did say that they spoke about it. They were aware prior to the fight about this injury. So it was nothing new.

As for Floyd saying it. Manny said it to the commissions. Sparring partners said it. Manny's doctor said it. Manny had surgery. They said they spoke about it in the fight too. Usada spoke to Manny's doctor weeks before the fight on a few occasions. All Manny's talk is a lie to you but Floyd's self prognosis makes it a legit severe injury that gave him the right to use it as an excuse for Floyd's poor performance .... got it.

[ADP02]

Evol's reply



I pretty much called it.

I called it that Kenny Bayless will allow Floyd to do everything and anything. Bayless would just break them up after the fact but no points deducted and no strong warnings of points deducted.

Floyd fans said that Floyd would not be holding, head locking, pushing Manny's head down, ...... because of Manny's style. I even showed gifs of what will happen. Gifs of Manny throwing combinations at Bradley and said that Floyd will be reaching out and holding for dear life and Bayless will do squat.

I was right.

[AllEyesOpen]

These delusional pacfanatics are like vampires, they only come out at night.

[radioraheem]

You Floyd fans need to get your stories straight. Some of you are saying it happened only during the fight while some do not believe it even happened and there was no surgery.

The cameras were not always on Manny's corner. Manny's corner did say that they spoke about it. They were aware prior to the fight about this injury. So it was nothing new.

As for Floyd saying it. Manny said it to the commissions. Sparring partners said it. Manny's doctor said it. Manny had surgery. They said they spoke about it in the fight too. Usada spoke to Manny's doctor weeks before the fight on a few occasions. All Manny's talk is a lie to you but Floyd's self prognosis makes it a legit severe injury that gave him the right to use it as an excuse for Floyd's poor performance .... got it.

There were various broadcasts, like Sky Sports for instance. And they show different cameras for the corner than HBO/Showtime did. In ALL the broadcasts, Team Pacquiao's corner never made any hints, suggestions, or talked about an injury.

With NSAC, nothing was said about the injury til 90 minutes before the fight was going to happen. And upon mentioning it, they did not provide any concrete evidence to prove he had an injury. USADA did not speak with Pacquiao's doctors, and no one informed them that he had an injury BEFORE the fight. There is also a sparring partner that said he knew nothing of an injury before the fight.

[radioraheem]

First of all, you agreed that Manny was injured in the fight. So it really does not matter if you don't believe there was an injury beforehand.

but just to say

You have yet to show any evidence that Manny was not injured before the fight. All you have is a sparring partner that was not aware but nobody saying that Manny was not hurt and that it was all a lie. Big, big difference! You can't even get a quote from the commissions nor USADA or anyone saying that they do not believe that Manny was injured.

On the other hand, there are quotes of the commissions being aware of the injury prior to the fight(spoke to Manny's team and doctors), USADA knew about the medication and the injury(investigated and spoke to Manny's doctors twice), sparring partners, doctors, yet you still trying to say that there was nothing. Thanks for the laugh. For you it was all coincidence that there was all that talk beforehand and later Manny having surgery to the same right shoulder.

Also, a sparring partner saying what was said below is good evidence and not considered hearsay. Just because another sparring partner didn't know about it doesn't mean that others didn't. That's like saying that because 2 judges didn't see a punch land that the 3rd judge saw then it didn't land.

"I just want to fill everyone in on all the rumors! We were asked not to mention anything to anyone but Yes Manny got hurt during this camp with his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad! So bad his sparring partners including myself were asked to go home a few weeks out before the actual fight, which means a lot of work he could have put in for this fight was brought to a halt due to the fact that he could not spar really anymore and didnt wanna mess it up more than he already had..........

..... If everyone knew what I knew you would be loved even more than how you are now! Thank you again for the experience and making me apart of this historic event memories I will cherish forever! No excuses at all being made the injury was real!" - Dashon Johnson

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There is NO concrete evidence that he was injured BEFORE the fight. And that is the bottom line. Evidence of an injury post-fight means little to nothing.

USADA went on record saying they knew nothing of the injury, and NSAC too (well not til 90 mins prior, but never was provided evidence to prove it). USADA went on record stating that they were not provided any concrete evidence for any injury. This is a fact. And you cannot provide any evidence of USADA saying they were aware of an injury BEFORE the fight. Only evidence that they did NOT know.

A sparring partner saying he had an injury is hearsay and it's not concrete evidence. Real evidence is official documentation verifying an injury, in the form of paperwork, MRI's, etc. That always trumps any hearsay or witness testimony (which often can be false). Too bad they don't have that to prove the injury BEFORE the fight.