Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[-PBP-]

No he doesn't. What are Floyd's advantages in this fight? Besides reach?

IQ
Accuracy
Timing
Defense
Size
Versatility
Technique
jab
sense of distance
Better counter puncher
Quicker
Stronger

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The fact that Floyd can fight in so many different styles

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People looking for a big action fight will be disappointed because Floyd must use to much strategy to win.116-112

[King Flow]

Floyd is not throwing anything unless he sees Pac punch or is down on the cards. He counter punches mostly.

check hooks and lead rights/counter rights

not like he needs to throw more than that against Manny who will drop his hands every time he throws a punch

[bigjavi973]

I would let this comment slide but you are 100% absolutely wrong. Watch the fights and we can discuss this again later:

Like I said... floyd primarily used the shoulder roll vs all of them. Yea he switched here and there... but there was no need for him to do that cuz they weren't even using their lead left hooks and turning. He used more ear muffs vs judah and corley

[King Flow]

Manny boxes like he's being controlled by a guy playing Fight Night for the first time on XBOX.

I only see him winning this fight 2 ways.

1. He catches Money like Mosley did but actually finishes the job, Mosley didn't end Floyd like he should have.

2. Robbery.

[GOD-FR33]

If pack can hurt may, then its a different fight. But fundamentally mayweather has the advantage from start. Let's see if he can keep it

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Better counter puncher
Quicker
Stronger

Sense of distance? I disagree. Manny has never had a problem with taller or longer or bigger opponents. He always controls the distance, like Floyd does. Floyd IS a better counter puncher. Floyd is quicker with single shots. Manny is faster than Floyd. Manny is also stronger than Floyd. He punches with twice the force that Floyd does. Versatility? Manny's the best offensive fighter in the game. Floyd is a pot shorter and predictable in his attack Manny is also more athletic than Floyd. Floyd is more accurate BUT Manny isn't half stepping in that department, either. Manny CAN outbox Floyd. Floyd has better timing but Manny's timing is good as well. Floyd has been the better defender but in recent fights, Manny's defense has been better than Floyd's. Just look at their faces after their last three fights. Manny is going to win the fight. He will outpoint Floyd. He will be faster of hand and foot, and he will be hard to hit over the course of 12 rounds. Floyd is OLD and not 28 anymore.

[-PBP-]

You know I had to do this right. Let me break it down for you.


This was your first comment:

Who is this guy???

"But what you are hearing is typically a casual response. if you watch Mayweather's fights vs southpaws. [B]He NEVER fights from one defensive guard for the duration.[/B] he keeps changing. from a shoulder roll, to high guard defense and to low guard (arms on the hips etc)

All this talk of shoulder roll or philly shell vs southpaws is pointless, because Mayweather doesn't use just one guard vs southpaws."

"IF they sign to fight in 2015, it will be Mayweather/Pacquiao week on my channel and I will analyse how both guys can win the fight, again using May v Ortiz.***65279;"

I hope ya are not getting ya "info" from him

You bolded the portion I put in red. Your laughing at the guy that uploaded the video because he said that he "never fights under one defensive guard for the duration." That was funny to you.


I show you 3 screen shots of him using a high guard against southpaws. You reply:

What you dont get? He barely came out of his shoulder roll vs ortiz, guerrero and mitchell.

Which is false.


Now your saying:

Like I said... floyd primarily used the shoulder roll vs all of them. Yea he switched here and there... but there was no need for him to do that cuz they weren't even using their lead left hooks and turning. He used more ear muffs vs judah and corley

You completely changed tune. You laughed at a comment about Floyd "never fighting using one defensive guard for the duration." And after all of this back and forth and actually watching the fights, you agree that he does not use one defensive guard for the duration.


I know you hate to admit when your wrong (like your Espinoza "exposure") so I'll leave it at that.

[George Orwell]

Manny boxes like he's being controlled by a guy playing Fight Night for the first time on XBOX.

I only see him winning this fight 2 ways.

1. He catches Money like Mosley did but actually finishes the job, Mosley didn't end Floyd like he should have.

2. Robbery.

This makes no sense whatsover. Hes been boxing for 20 years plus

You play a boxing video game.

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Sense of distance? I disagree. Manny has never had a problem with taller or longer or bigger opponents. He always controls the distance, like Floyd does.

Manny continously let Marquez step back, wheel him in range and land his right hand. He also reaches and over extends himself at times.

Floyd is always too far away or smothers you up close to where it is difficult to land on him. He also has good spacing and can land his straight right hand when his opponent thinks that he is safely out of Floyd's range. Floyd and Ward are masters of distance.

Floyd IS a better counter puncher.

Obviously

Floyd is quicker with single shots. Manny is faster than Floyd.

I argeed. That's why I said quicker but didn't list speed as an advantage.

Manny is also stronger than Floyd. He punches with twice the force that Floyd does.

I didn't list power. I listed strength. Floyd is physically stronger and that's why I expect him to walk him down at times and get physical with him, wrestling a bit and tying him up inside.

Versatility? Manny's the best offensive fighter in the game. Floyd is a pot shorter and predictable in his attack Manny is also more athletic than Floyd.

Manny is only effective operating at mid-range. Floyd can do that, he can box you on the outside, he is the best inside fighter in boxing today. He gives you so many more different looks than Pacquiao.

Floyd is more accurate BUT Manny isn't half stepping in that department, either.

Agreed

Manny CAN outbox Floyd.

If he tries it will be a long night. The only way he wins is by out-hustling Mayweather and banking rounds. (which is a VERY realistic possibility and my biggest concern)

Floyd has better timing but Manny's timing is good as well.

Agreed.

Floyd has been the better defender but in recent fights, Manny's defense has been better than Floyd's. Just look at their faces after their last three fights.

LOL. Look at their opposition. Let's see how Floyd's face looks after fighting Algeiri, Rios and Bradley.

Manny is going to win the fight. He will outpoint Floyd. He will be faster of hand and foot, and he will be hard to hit over the course of 12 rounds. Floyd is OLD and not 28 anymore.

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Pac is no spring chicken either. But I agree that his best chance to win his to use his speed and out-hustle Floyd to steal rounds in the eyes of the judges.