Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[Aristocrat]

How does manny look so far?

Pacquiao punch #mannypacquiao #mayweathervspacquiao

A video posted by Nick Giongco (@nicksneaks) on Feb 26, 2015 at 6:05am PST

[HeGotPacProblem]

Same reason why Most gates at the MGM with Floyd have been larger than, for example, pac clotty at texas stadium or Canelo/ whoever in San Antonio. It's simple math.

If I sell 15k seats at $5 per seat that's $75,000. If I sell 200 seats at $1,500 that's $300k.

The inability to view the fight clearly would drive the costs of seats down dramatically in Texas Stadium. I mean, how much would you pay for a seat (factor in travel, lodging, parking, concessions) that requires you to watch the same HD video feed you would at home?

Again you're overexaggerating to fit your point. Tickets at cowboy stadium started at $50-$700. Tickets for Floyd/Mosley in the same year ranged from $150-$1250, stop making stuff up

[AllBoxingAD]

Hows that possible when capacity is 4x at Dallas?

Because if the fight happens at Jerry Jones stadium, how does Jerry make money? Ticket sales. Because really customers arent spending that much money once they are inside the stadium. There is no other source of income. Because of that, Jerry cant share much of the gate revenue with the fighters.

MGM can share the gate revenue with the fighters because they make money on how much customers spend at the Hotel and casinos. And that spending goes on all week long. With this event, MGM will make a literal killing on things thats got nothing to do with ticket sales. In fact, all of Vegas will. So yeah the fighters can have it.

[HeGotPacProblem]

Because if the fight happens at Jerry Jones stadium, how does Jerry make money? Ticket sales. Because really customers arent spending that much money once they are inside the stadium. There is no other source of income. Because of that, Jerry cant share much of the gate revenue with the fighters.

MGM can share the gate revenue with the fighters because they make money on how much customers spend at the Hotel and casinos. And that spending goes on all week long. With this event, MGM will make a literal killing on things thats got nothing to do with ticket sales. In fact, all of Vegas will. So yeah the fighters can have it.

Ok this explanation makes sense. ..thanks.

The next big news we're all waiting for is who the sparring partners will be and who the ref will be.

[The Big Dunn]

Again you're overexaggerating to fit your point. Tickets at cowboy stadium started at $50-$700. Tickets for Floyd/Mosley in the same year ranged from $150-$1250, stop making stuff up

I was using the figures as an example. Didn't you get that?

What I didn't make up was the fact that Floyd fights at MGM (and Manny fights) have had significantly larger gates than Manny's Clotty fight at Texas stadium and Canelo's fights in San Antonia, both of which had more than double the amount of fans.

Knowing the above is true, why do you think it worked out that way? Do you think there is any other reason than MGM having a higher average cost per seat?

Let's use your figures-If $20,000 fans brought $50 seats that's $1 mil. The MGM only has to sell 6,665 of the $150 seats to equal that.

DO you understand now?

[The Big Dunn]

Because if the fight happens at Jerry Jones stadium, how does Jerry make money? Ticket sales. Because really customers arent spending that much money once they are inside the stadium. There is no other source of income. Because of that, Jerry cant share much of the gate revenue with the fighters.

MGM can share the gate revenue with the fighters because they make money on how much customers spend at the Hotel and casinos. And that spending goes on all week long. With this event, MGM will make a literal killing on things thats got nothing to do with ticket sales. In fact, all of Vegas will. So yeah the fighters can have it.

what about parking, food, and any concessions? you think people are parking for free? are they going to drink and eat, same as they would at any fight?

[HeGotPacProblem]

I was using the figures as an example. Didn't you get that?

What I didn't make up was the fact that Floyd fights at MGM (and Manny fights) have had significantly larger gates than Manny's Clotty fight at Texas stadium and Canelo's fights in San Antonia, both of which had more than double the amount of fans.

Knowing the above is true, why do you think it worked out that way? Do you think there is any other reason than MGM having a higher average cost per seat?

Let's use your figures-If $20,000 fans brought $50 seats that's $1 mil. The MGM only has to sell 6,665 of the $150 seats to equal that.

DO you understand now?

Ok there's still 40k seats left at Dallas and 10k at MGM to compare. And the bigger issue is giving the fans more of an opportunity to be.there in person not which is what Floyd says..."he does it for the fans." It would be a shame if no tickets were offered directly to the general public, only thru resellers.

[The Big Dunn]

Ok there's still 40k seats left at Dallas and 10k at MGM to compare. And the bigger issue is giving the fans more of an opportunity to be.there in person not which is what Floyd says..."he does it for the fans." It would be a shame if no tickets were offered directly to the general public, only thru resellers.

Yes, but those seats do not provide a very good view of the ring. I get the point that more people can go, but if you can't see the fight in the ring and have to watch the monitor, that takes away from the viewing experience for many.

Some arenas, there "isn't a bad seat in the house". that wouldn't be the case in Texas Stadium. I would actually argue there will be more bad seats than good ones for a fight.

As to the cost-I gave a low end on the # of cheaper seats. It may have been 25k or more. Bad seats at the MGM would literally be the same as 7 or 8 of the Texas seats, which exceeds Texas Stadium being 4 or 5 times the size of the MGM arena.

I get your point about wanting to be there in person, but it would be hard to see the fight. MGM or MSG seems much better.

[bigjavi973]

I don't want to see Floyd constantly stand in the center of the ring with his lead hand drop down by his waist like this and try to anticipate an oncoming attack. He's not in his prime anymore. He needs to stop relying heavily on his reflexes to anticipate oncoming attacks. His lead hand measure tactic is very effective, he just need to rely on it a bit more than his reflexes especially against a shorter fighter like Manny who has uncanny/unorthodox type of attacking rhythm.



Mosley had nothing to worried about getting through Floyd's stance in this gif. Floyd got ****y and tried to relied on his reflexes with his lead hand down by his waist and paid the price. Now just imagine if Floyd had kept his lead hand up in front of Mosley's face and measured the distance with it. Mosley wouldn't have been able to easily feinted downstairs with his the jab and rushed through with a straight right hand upstairs because Floyd's lead hand would've nullified his frontal vision from setting up that feint downstairs. He would've to tried to bypass Floyd's lead hand and his sudden forward aggression/movement would've instantly alerted Floyd of the oncoming right hand upstairs, and in which case, it'd be up to Floyd to be defensively responsible to react in time and step back out of range or stand there or get caught flush with the right hand upstairs.




I also don't want to see Floyd backing up on the ropes with his lead hand down by his waist.

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Look how easily Maidana penetrated through Floyd's guard and crowded him on the ropes. Again lead hand down by his waist and instantly gave Maidana the leverage to easily walked through him.

your breakdowns are good. Heres one that im sure you might agree with:

[bigjavi973]

What's the affinity with Floyd and the MGM? Not like the crowds Will be pro Floyd. Don't boxers get a cut off the gate revenue as well?

Xylocaine shots!!!