Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[-PBP-]

What you fail to realize, is that Floyd has no A Level fighters on his resume, when they had something left in the tank. Manny is a special fighter who has fought better fighters. That alone gives him more than just a chance to win. Floyd is not a boxing god. He's no Sweet Pea or Ray Leonard. He's a mere HOF'mer. He is also 38 yrs old. Do you all forget that??? What you saw against Maidana was not a joke. Prime Floyd wins 22 of out 24 rounds against Maidana. FACT. What Cotto did against him was not for "the fans". He got hands put on him. His reflexes are not the same. He is a reflex fighter. When they start to fail him, he is in trouble. Manny WILL win the fight, simply because he is better than Floyd and always have been.

Lists these prime A+ hall of fame fighters on Pacquiao's resume. Barrera and I guess Marquez if you think he actually won those fights. I gave Pac the first. You're probably count Marquez as an ATG, A+ win on one guys resume but not the other but I don't feel like getting into that argument which has been beaten to death so I'll bow out.

Still Floyd has a deep resume of top contenders, pound for pound ranked fighters, hall of famers and title holders and considering his level of dominance, their resumes are basically a wash. During one stretch they were recycling the same damn opponents.

[The Big Dunn]

Here's the thing though hectari, he might've seen a change in Pacquiao but has he seen the change in himself or is his ego too big? because he too has lost more than a step.

Isn't that why he held so much in Maidana 2? he realized his limitations and did what was necessary to win?

[billeau2]

I don't think he needs to. Maidana and Hatton are very dirty, aggressive fighters whose only chance to win was if they could get inside and work. Best way to deal with fighters like that is use your feet, stay on the outside and wrap them up. Hatton especially with that holding and hitting bull**** he always tries to pull. He moved more against Maidana 2, Hatton and even Guerrero because they can't deal with movement.

Pac is not an inside fighter so I really see no reason for Floyd to move and grab as much as he did in those fights. With Pac, the fighters who have had the most success have backed him up or caught him coming in. I expect to see Floyd mix it up and do a little bit of everything. Keep Manny at distance at the tip of his jab and his straight, smother him and wrestle inside, time him on his way in.

You don't make sense. Madiana did not win fighting Floyd inside, he actually chased Floyd from the center of the ring and touched him up against the ropes with wide punches that went around floyd's guard...watch the fight. He was also succesful with a jab in the middle of the ring, suprising some people, nothing dirty about it. Hatton had been destroyed by his management. Basically he was instructed to hold and hump, pretty much ever since the Zoo fight. Hatton could work inside but 'Floyd had the legs to evade, set and counter.

[GOD-FR33]

Lists these prime A+ hall of fame fighters on Pacquiao's resume. Barrera and I guess Marquez if you think he actually won those fights. I gave Pac the first. You're probably count Marquez as an ATG, A+ win on one guys resume but not the other but I don't feel like getting into that argument which has been beaten to death so I'll bow out.

Still Floyd has a deep resume of top contenders, pound for pound ranked fighters, hall of famers and title holders and considering his level of dominance, their resumes are basically a wash. During one stretch they were recycling the same damn opponents.

Morales, Barrera, and Marquez made Manny a HOF'mer. His run at welter, made him an ATG. The fact that he is under-sized and still willing to fight, anyone is a testimate to his greatness. He fought Clottey whom Floyd avoided. He fought Cheeto, whom Floyd avoided. He fought Bradley, twice. Nobody wanted to fight Bradley either. This man has NO FEAR of anyone. He is a global icon. Floyd is just a Superstar. Floyd will not fight outside of Vegas, to save his life. Manny wanted to fight at Cowboys Stadium. Floyd rejected it. Manny can go ANYWHERE in the world and put butts in seats, Mayweather cannot. On top of all of this, Manny beat their common opponents more impressively. Roidquez was roided up and that's how he KO'ed Manny. Last time I checked, you do not KO Manny. The first Bradley decision was one of the worse in history. So, to be technical about it, this man hasn't had a clear legit loss in over a DECADE. Think about that for a second. The last clear loss was against Morales in their first encounter. Both the Bradley and Roidquez losses, have an asterisk by them. Floyd has not fought the level of competition that Manny has and that's a FACT. Name anyone on his resume, better than Morales? Barrera? Roidquez? Or even Clottey? How about Bradley? You get my point? Floyd is a prize fighter who is concerned with smart match making. manny is a fighter's fighter and that's the difference.

[Weebler I]

Isn't that why he held so much in Maidana 2? he realized his limitations and did what was necessary to win?

I don't know but they do say the fighter is always the last to know.

But let's say he does know he's lost a step, it still makes massive financial sense to take the fight. If he wins, say he gets $80m? if he loses, takes a rematch, that's $160m.

[-PBP-]

You don't make sense. Madiana did not win fighting Floyd inside, he actually chased Floyd from the center of the ring and touched him up against the ropes with wide punches that went around floyd's guard...watch the fight. He was also succesful with a jab in the middle of the ring, suprising some people, nothing dirty about it.

I don't get what you are arguing here. The guy asked me if I think Floyd will move more like he did in the Maidana rematch and I explained why he moved more in the Maidana rematch. I don't care what Maidana did in the first fight because that is not what we were arguing.

Hatton had been destroyed by his management. Basically he was instructed to hold and hump, pretty much ever since the Zoo fight. Hatton could work inside but 'Floyd had the legs to evade, set and counter.

I don't get what you are arguing here either. The guy asked me if I think Floyd would move more like he did in the Hatton fight and I explained why he moved more against Hatton.

[brickcityboxing]

Morales, Barrera, and Marquez made Manny a HOF'mer. His run at welter, made him an ATG. The fact that he is under-sized and still willing to fight, anyone is a testimate to his greatness. He fought Clottey whom Floyd avoided. He fought Cheeto, whom Floyd avoided. He fought Bradley, twice. Nobody wanted to fight Bradley either. This man has NO FEAR of anyone. He is a global icon. Floyd is just a Superstar. Floyd will not fight outside of Vegas, to save his life. Manny wanted to fight at Cowboys Stadium. Floyd rejected it. Manny can go ANYWHERE in the world and put butts in seats, Mayweather cannot. On top of all of this, Manny beat their common opponents more impressively. Roidquez was roided up and that's how he KO'ed Manny. Last time I checked, you do not KO Manny. The first Bradley decision was one of the worse in history. So, to be technical about it, this man hasn't had a clear legit loss in over a DECADE. Think about that for a second. The last clear loss was against Morales in their first encounter. Both the Bradley and Roidquez losses, have an asterisk by them. Floyd has not fought the level of competition that Manny has and that's a FACT. Name anyone on his resume, better than Morales? Barrera? Roidquez? Or even Clottey? How about Bradley? You get my point? Floyd is a prize fighter who is concerned with smart match making. manny is a fighter's fighter and that's the difference.

This is why people have a hard time taking any insight from a pacquiao supporter without a boulder sized grain of salt..

[HeGotPacProblem]

PAC is the favorite to win according to this poll... But we all know that if he does this site will shutdown with people post in all types of ****. Which is odd because it shouldn't come as a shock seeing how most people picked him to win to begin with...

Point is that poll is more about wishful thinking than it is about making an actual prediction... If people had to wager $100 in order to cast there vote anonymously I think we'd be looking at a different result.

Wager $100 to win $25 Since he's the favorite? No value there.

[HeGotPacProblem]

This is why people have a hard time taking any insight from a pacquiao supporter without a boulder sized grain of salt..

So who on Floyd's resume s equivalent? Corrales? Hernandez?

[brickcityboxing]

Reminder: G0D-FR33 ducked sparring me at a globally reputed MMA gym in Milwaukee.

Ouch ... I actually do remember that haha