Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[AllEyesOpen]

Look at Larry Holmes, someone who is considered one of the most dominant heavyweight champions of all time. Here is doing what Floyd did against Manny but even more so than Floyd did. And Tyson STILL knocked him out inside four rounds. Don't blame Floyd for fighting cautiously, blame Manny for not being able to do **** to neutralize it.

Excellent post. Simply put if you're are shorter fighter with inside game your goal should be to avoid getting caught in a clinch as well as breaking free of the clinch to put in work on the inside as Tyson would and to a certain extent Maidana did as well.

If you're the taller fighter, the goal is boxing on the outside and tying up to keep the opponent from executing.

It's boxing 101, the problem is people wanted Mayweather to fight Pacquiao's fight instead of his own which makes no sense.

[Spoon23]

Good for you. You'd be a terrible judge then. You would reward a fighter like Floyd points he didn't deserve and punish a fighter like Manny for his clean effective counter-punching, defense, and effective aggressiveness. Smh. Boxing is a joke and NEEDS a new system, ASAP! It's already lost the credibility war because of Floyd. He's bad news for the sport and acts like a Mob Boss who has too much control of the sport. FACTS. If they had fought anywhere but Vegas, Floyd loses that fight. PERIOD. He fought scared and looked ordinary. Now, why was that? I guess it had nothing to do with Manny Pacquaio's greatness, ey?

Well said my friend well said. Just a word of advice, I think your fonts are nice and all, but I think standard fonts will suffice. It's kinda glaring to read through it. People with bad eyes sight might squint more reading through those texts.

[Spoon23]

Poor Manny. He's not even good enough to beat Spoon's admission of a 'running, ducking, coward'

That's gotta sting.

I think your logic needs immediate lubrication. It's corroding buddy.

Ducking, running means an opponent needed to chase a fighter who is cowardly and didn't want to engage, Hence; that said fight became a bore-fest since one wanted to run and duck the whole 12 rounds. But even with all that chasing that Pac did he still found a way to win, if it weren't in Vegas, he would surely have won that fight.

So asks yourself are you sweating?

I think you are Hehehe

Cheers buddy boy!

[BrometheusBob.]

Excellent post. Simply put if you're are shorter fighter with inside game your goal should be to avoid getting caught in a clinch as well as breaking free of the clinch to put in work on the inside as Tyson would and to a certain extent Maidana did as well.

If you're the taller fighter, the goal is boxing on the outside and tying up to keep the opponent from executing.

It's boxing 101, the problem is people wanted Mayweather to fight Pacquiao's fight instead of his own which makes no sense.

A few reasons that this post made me lol but at the end of the day I won't deny that Pacquiao's inside game is weak af.

[Spoon23]

A few reasons that this post made me lol but at the end of the day I won't deny that Pacquiao's inside game is weak af.

It made me lol too haha

His post shows how he cant see through the hugging, tugging and running parts of Floyd's cowardly ways. Inside fighting is duking it out while trying not to get tangled up. That's inside fighting.

Elbowing, hugging, locking ones arm are foul in boxing. Boxing 101 as he loves to call it. Wether it be a heavyweight a featherweight those are foul. And sometimes these fighters get away with it coz the referee allows them too. That is also what is wrong in boxing. It is subjective not objective. A fighters fate rest upon bad calls by the referees and bad scoring by the judges.

Clinching wether you're a light weight or a heavyweight boxer or any weight class, every time a fighter traps an opponent is cheap exploitation. The ref does the work for him an bails him out. It is not the job of the ref to bail him out. That is for the fighter to find away without unnecessary unsportsmanlike FOULING.

The way clinching is allowed to be exploited, it removes one of the essential aspects of boxing, INSIDE FIGHTING. When the referee bails him out, the fighter who clinches, and the one attacking loses all the hard work that he put in especially when on the ropes. that's just bad boxing.

[brickcityboxing]

Hugging thy name is Floyd.

Can't believe this dude is a p4p lol

Maidana was still able to do good work while Floyd attempted to clinch... Manny could not. Maidana was able to force Floyd on the ropes ... Manny could not. Maidana was able to cut the ring off... Manny.... starting to see a trend develop here?

[b00g13man]

Maidana was still able to do good work while Floyd attempted to clinch... Manny could not. Maidana was able to force Floyd on the ropes ... Manny could not. Maidana was able to cut the ring off... Manny.... starting to see a trend develop here?

Maidana > #48

[Johnwoo8686]

Key word, 'Heavyweight'

Heavyweight's are heavy lumbering giants who spend gasoline like a v12 engine. They tire after firing a few shots, resulting to clinching when they tire.They have heavy punches although strong, tends to tire them up quickly. They have 12 rounds to fight and they need to conserve energy, hence, the clinching to keep them going so they can last 12 rounds.

Clinching in general is a bad thing, but the worst clinching is the boxer's who clinch to prevent an exchange from happening. You prevent a punch by evading or blocking with your arms never should be through clinching. That's cowardly. Clinching is mainly done to conserve energy, especially for big lumbering men. Floyd is a welterweight. He is lighter on his feet, can punch, block more faster than a heavyweight, and burns energy a lot lesser than a heavy weight. So your analogy is lame and inaccurate as usual.

Clinching every time a fighter traps an opponent is cheap exploitation. The ref does the work for him an bails him out. It is not the job of the ref to bail him out. That is for the fighter to find away.

Basically there's a loop hole being exploited like how floyd has mastered it lol

The way clinching is allowed to be exploited, it removes one of the essential aspects of boxing, INSIDE FIGHTING. When the referee bails him out, the fighter who clinches, and the one attacking loses all the hard work that he put in especially when on the ropes. that's just bad boxing.



Floyd perfected the loop hole of clinching. PHD in hugging.

Why?

Clinching in MMA is worlds apart from clinching in boxing. In MMA, you can strike from the clinch, go for takedowns, or in extremely rare cases, attempt a submission. The clinch is a transitional phase between free striking and groundwork. In boxing, the clinch serves virtually no purpose but to get the ref to break you apart and artificially create a safe space.

In one sport, clinching is a legitimate strategy, In the other, it's gaming the system.

This is what's wrong in boxing.

Exhibit A:

My God you're not very intelligent are you? So a heavyweight can clinch but a welterweight can't? Show me the rule book where that is written. Or did you make that up on your own? So Larry Holmes clinched to conserve energy in the very first round? No, he clinched to use it as a spoiling tactic whenever Tyson tried to land haymakers. There have been plenty of heavyweights who fought every second of every round and used to for 15 rounds straight. You clearly don't know the history of boxing and only started watching the sport a few years ago.

The rules for heavyweights are the same for welterweights so stop trying to draw rules from out your ass. Tyson was able to score a knockout win while he was being held but Manny could not plain and simple. Holmes held Tyson WAY more than Floyd held Manny but Tyson got the job done while Manny could not. Plain and simple, Manny had no inside game and struggles to throw combinations against a moving target. "If he stay then I can throw punches" is what he said lol.

[Spoon23]

Maidana was still able to do good work while Floyd attempted to clinch... Manny could not. Maidana was able to force Floyd on the ropes ... Manny could not. Maidana was able to cut the ring off... Manny.... starting to see a trend develop here?

Your delusional mind is playing tricks on you again. No trend. The only thing trending is that your hero is a hugger hahahaha! Maidana just happens to know some wrestling moves which is very unorthodox boxing, but is very effective in those hugging situations lol

The other thing that you should have notice. Floyd got gifted wins from fighting Maidana, Pacquiao and Castillo. Some say even Dlh lol

His undefeated record is all smoke and mirrors. Only thing real is he's protected in Vegas lol

The trend you should be seeing by now is that your hero loves to hug and his best friend is Barney Hahahahahahahaha

[Spoon23]

My God you're not very intelligent are you? So a heavyweight can clinch but a welterweight can't? Show me the rule book where that is written. Or did you make that up on your own? So Larry Holmes clinched to conserve energy in the very first round? No, he clinched to use it as a spoiling tactic whenever Tyson tried to land haymakers. There have been plenty of heavyweights who fought every second of every round and used to for 15 rounds straight. You clearly don't know the history of boxing and only started watching the sport a few years ago.

The rules for heavyweights are the same for welterweights so stop trying to draw rules from out your ass. Tyson was able to score a knockout win while he was being held but Manny could not plain and simple. Holmes held Tyson WAY more than Floyd held Manny but Tyson got the job done while Manny could not. Plain and simple, Manny had no inside game and struggles to throw combinations against a moving target. "If he stay then I can throw punches" is what he said lol.

Never said anything like what your accusing me off. You just lack comprehension lol

Inside fighting is duking it out while trying not to get tangled up. That's inside fighting.

Elbowing, hugging, locking ones arm are foul in boxing. Wether it be a heavyweight a featherweight those are foul. And sometimes these fighters get away with it coz the referee allows them too. That is also what is wrong in boxing. It is subjective not objective. A fighters fate rest upon bad calls by the referees and bad scoring by the judges.

Clinching wether you're a light weight or a heavyweight boxer or any weight class, every time a fighter traps an opponent is cheap exploitation. The ref does the work for him an bails him out. It is not the job of the ref to bail him out. That is for the fighter to find away without unnecessary unsportsmanlike FOULING.

Hence, wether it's a heavyweight or a lightweight, foul is foul, and your example is foul. It's just that referee was lenient to allow those foul tactics.

That is what is not consistent and wrong in boxing. It's always subjective never objectively accurate. Coz ones fate rest on the interpretation of judges and referees even if it's clear the elbows are flying everywhere, if the referee wants to keep it going it still goes even if we know darn well it should have been foul.

Same as excessive hugging. That's foul too. But some gets away with it in Vegas hahahaha

But of course you knew that already