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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    I know it's about the doe, but look at it from a different perspective. A businessman wants to make the most he can while spending as little as possible. But he knows that the product he sells has to garner interest, so he balances production cost with product quality. If the product is crap, and customers know it, they stop buying it...the dream goes poof. If he delivers a quality product, customers will come back for more. Haymon has given us enough crap fights to make us notice he's been playing us. We've caught on, and many are not buying into his bs anymore.
    I may not agree but this is a Good post. Haymon's spending his money now, not someone else's so yeah he better put on the best product possible. I think he held out a lot on ODH last year because of the legal stuff but it doesn't matter-he turned people against his boxers.

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      What you said doesn't make sense. you are judging the quality of the fight before it happens, based on the fact both are not defending their titles. Was Ward/ Gatti 1 for a title? If both guys didn't defend their titles, would that have made it any worse.

      Yes, no belts on the line makes the fight less significant. But if you get a FOTY candidate fight, does the belts not being on the line make a difference?
      Come on man, Gatti & Ward are cut from a far different cloth than Garcia & Peterson.

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        #73
        Originally posted by JLBlades
        If the fight is good, i'll be glad i watched, but it still won't change that someone will still be champion after losing. It also sucks knowing that both will probably be used to headline a future event as champion.

        Canelo Kirkland catchweight doesn't mean much cause there is no belt to fight over anyway.
        If you really think this has a chance to turn into Gatti-Ward you're out of you mind. Both of those guys were known as crowd pleasing warriors. Can you say the same of Garcia-Peterson.
        Tell me what champions fight for when they don't have to defend the belt and they are fighting a champion with a belt they can't win.
        I was legit excited for this fight( tho i questioned why neither took their belt to the fight presser) til I found out it wasn't for the belts.
        Ok, that's fair. I think Peterson defends his title and Broner/ whoever fights for belt after Danny vacates.

        I'm not saying it will be that great, but that's what I love about boxing-you never know what happens.

        I'd hate to think both guys won't go out to try and win but there is a lot less on the line so that could factor in. I'm just going to hope for the best.

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          #74
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
          Come on man, Gatti & Ward are cut from a far different cloth than Garcia & Peterson.
          No one knew you'd get that dude. No one knew you'd get Castillo/Corrales. The point is don't write off a fight before it happens because in boxing, literally anything can happen.

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            #75
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Not the internet tough guy routine again.

            I didn't compare the fights I referenced Gatti v ward-do you know the difference. How could I compare a fight that happened with one that didn't?

            With or without the titles on the line, we wont know how good the fight was until its over. Them holding the belts and not unifying will not determine if this is a great fight.
            aint no internet tough guy nothing bruh... just stating what it is. you referenced it saying that it was a non title fight but it was a great fight. Yes you are correct there... if they had titles would the titles have been on the line?

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              #76
              Originally posted by El-blanco
              That was a straight duck, different circumstances, bowe threw it away rather than fight lennox. No one really gives a **** about Lamont's belt, it's meaningless. Sure it's lame but not the worst. I rather they fight at at this weight rather thn not at all. I highly doubt they would have made this fight at 140.
              They should have fought LAST YEAR!!!! but its ok that they are both champs at 140 fighting at a bogus catchweight... you know since they're fighting instead of not fighting at all

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                #77
                Originally posted by bigjavi973
                aint no internet tough guy nothing bruh... just stating what it is. you referenced it saying that it was a non title fight but it was a great fight. Yes you are correct there... if they had titles would the titles have been on the line?
                who knows? Maybe.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  They should have fought LAST YEAR!!!! but its ok that they are both champs at 140 fighting at a bogus catchweight... you know since they're fighting instead of not fighting at all
                  Lol dude you're acting like I'm some fan boy. I agree, they should have fought last year, they didn't and won't fight at 140. So yes, while its bullsit, I'm just happy to get a competitive fight.

                  And belts are meaningless, the amount of them diminishes their value. Put that in your sig.

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                  • SUBZER0ED
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    No one knew you'd get that dude. No one knew you'd get Castillo/Corrales. The point is don't write off a fight before it happens because in boxing, literally anything can happen.
                    I'll give you that one can never really predict how a fight will turn out. But I think we've seen enough from Garcia and Peterson in their respective fights, to know that they are no Ward or Gatti. Not saying that it won't be a decent fight, though.
                    Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 02-19-2015, 05:27 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      I'll give you that one can never really predict how a fight will turn out. But I think we've seen enough from Garcia and Peterson in their respective fights, to know that they are no Ward or Gatti. Not saying that it won't be a decent fight, though.
                      I know dude. Just an example of something unexpected and far greater than the fighters in the fight.

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