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  • John Barron
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    #71
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    Cotto in pink is worse than the **** Oscar has been caught wearing?

    not worse, you misunderstood. oscar went all the way, therefore he is higher.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #72
      Originally posted by Body Movin'
      not worse, you misunderstood. oscar went all the way, therefore he is higher.
      Lmao, got you.

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      • Mitchell Kane
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        #73
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        Losing to Mosley twice is better than actually beating the guy? Cotto has less losses and more big wins. So yeah, I want your opinion, are you seriously unable to provide one?
        Yeah, but Mosley (and Vargas) roided up for Oscar.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
          Losing to Mosley twice is better than actually beating the guy? Cotto has less losses and more big wins. So yeah, I want your opinion, are you seriously unable to provide one?
          He barely lost to a prime Shane. Killed a prime mayorga, cotto struggled with a shot version of him.

          Beat pernell, quartey, killed vargas, barely lost to tito if at all. It's not even close really.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
            Yeah, but Mosley (and Vargas) roided up for Oscar.
            Margarito loaded up for Cotto, they were both drained against Pac... Cotto is still looking better and I've yet to see HOW or WHY Oscar is better. All I hear is that he should be, not as to why he ACTUALLY IS better. The reason? When you look at their resume's, Oscar was simply prettier and better marketed than Cotto. Who is an introvert and not very outgoing, he's also not Mexcian. That's literally the only reason, if you look at just overall in-ring work, Cotto has accomplished more than Oscar, other than fighting in more weight classes which really doesn't matter at all to me.

            I don't think Broner is better than Hagler because he won titles in 3 divisions.

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            • icha
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              #76
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              So because he fought in more weight classes he's better? Lmao. Henry Armstrong is better than Ali and SRR then.
              of course not, cotto is better cuz he beated mosley doe...

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                #77
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                Why is Oscar better?
                I thought from about his 17th/18th fight up until the Mosley loss, he fought a very strong list of opponents, beating them all (well, I thought he beat Tito even though he ran the last 4 rds). The last 12or so fights he got beat by far better fighters (and yes, I thought Sturm beat him). Shane was also dirty so that factors in.

                Cotto has a very strong early resume IMO but I would put it below ODH's. I discount the Margs loss as thought he was cheating (yes I know there was no "proof"). His resume late is good as well, the Sergio win was unexpected.

                For me it comes down to the early resume and the Tito fight. I watched ODH toy with a HOF fighter in his prime.

                Maybe its closer than my earlier post suggested.

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                • Beater_of_ass
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by El-blanco
                  He barely lost to a prime Shane. Killed a prime mayorga, cotto struggled with a shot version of him.

                  Beat pernell, quartey, killed vargas, barely lost to tito if at all. It's not even close really.
                  He lost to Shane and Cotto won, that gives it to Cotto, sorry. Mayorga is **** are you kidding me? Cotto KO'd him too, saying he struggled is grasping, he lost 2 rounds on all the scorecards and ended up KO'ing him anyway. So far the only name worth mentioned is Pernell Whitaker and he was more past it than Martinez when they fought, but MUCH MUCH smaller than Oscar.

                  So your defense that Oscar is better is because he lost twice to a guy Cotto beat. He beat a crappy fighter by KO, the same guy Cotto KO'd, a loss to Tito is a good thing... apparently.

                  With logic like that no wonder you guys think Oscar is better.

                  Cotto lost to Margarito with bricks, Manny by draining. Oscar asked to fight Manny at 147, so that's not his fault. See... how dumb your thinking is.

                  Overall... it's close, but one guys career isn't over which is why I never voted. After Cotto gets done with Canelo and Mayweather you'll come around, but he really is slightly already ahead of him already.

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I thought from about his 17th/18th fight up until the Mosley loss, he fought a very strong list of opponents, beating them all (well, I thought he beat Tito even though he ran the last 4 rds). The last 12or so fights he got beat by far better fighters (and yes, I thought Sturm beat him). Shane was also dirty so that factors in.

                    Cotto has a very strong early resume IMO but I would put it below ODH's. I discount the Margs loss as thought he was cheating (yes I know there was no "proof"). His resume late is good as well, the Sergio win was unexpected.

                    For me it comes down to the early resume and the Tito fight. I watched ODH toy with a HOF fighter in his prime.

                    Maybe its closer than my earlier post suggested.
                    Thank you, Dunn. Great post my friend and I agree it's close and I could understand why people would give the nod to Oscar. But it's not a wash by any means and Cotto's career isn't over.

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                      #80
                      bigjavi alert here...

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