Comments Thread For: Roach Making Changes in Strategy For Mayweather

[Bolopunch68]

The title of the thread is "Roach Making Changes in Strategy..." I'm just saying that there should be NO CHANGES IN STRATEGY. Manny is who he is! Floyd won't be making changes, and when he does, it is in the ring. Manny doesn't need to be told to "make changes." He should just be Manny, and at this point, he can only be Manny. Manny is not, and never will be a Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins, kind of guy. Just let him be him, and that's probably the best strategy. I've seen too many guys trying figure Floyd out, and before you know it, there down 6 rounds to 2, and then they 're in panic mode, and Floyd eats them alive. Be what you were to get you the fight in the first place, and you might do better...like Maidana 1.

I think what Freddie Is trying to say when he said he might change strategy against Floyd is accordance with what he saw against Maidana fight and the Cotto fight. He said he's just doing his research base on Mays latest fights. If May's legs isn't really it used to be then he'll base his tactics on that, he got countered and tagged by Cotto and Maidana which in comparison to hands speed is not even close to Manny's. Freddie always comes up with a great fight plans, it's up to Manny to execute them and stay with it if its effective.

[mathed]

So, just if it's not announced tomorrow, is it still cool if I blame it on Floyd?

[Robbie Barrett]

Here's a good video that shows some of the major flaws in Pacquiaos style.

[dranoel]

Eh, Pacquiao's jab is crap.
Best he can do to avoid counters is to feint.
Also, if he can sneak in some left uppercuts to the body like he did once with Algeri-who was back peddling. Might set-up some left hooks on Floyd.
Though, I can honestly only recall one time he shot the uppercut throughout the entire Algeri fight and probably just through desperation; but some versatility in his arsenal can always help.
I'm not too sure what Maidana was thinking with the over the top donkey kong punches. So Pacquiao can remove that off the list of do's. Floyd bends at times & can be susceptible for an uppercut.
I'm already sort of prepared to witness Pacquiao take a bunch of lead rights and check hooks.
I'll still be rooting for him though. :-)

[Bolopunch68]

Can't beat a fighter like Mayweather with one hand.......if a jab isn't part of his gameplan, he loses.

Doesn't have to be a great jab. He doesn't even have to throw it too often. But he does need to use it to take away one of Mayweather's best strenghts, the ability to control space. Manny throws high volumes of punches. But for them to reach the target, he will have to box a little using the jab enough that eventually he can feint it and get inside without being countered.........

Ah...........what's the use of arguing with Pac fans........to them Floyd is a horrible fighter and 'scared'........even though his last loss was in the Atlanta Olympics and an outright robbery........(ref raised Mayweather's hand he was so sure he'd won).......

In 1996, Manny was also having trouble.......a gut shot from Torrecampo
resulting in a KO.....

You sure it was Torrecampo who knock Manny out by a gut shot? You're getting irritated when someone voice their opinions on the game plans. You as well is trying to downplay Manny's capabilities inside the ring. We will see how Mays reacts whenever he gets tag by Manny, and he will get tag cleanly and often. Aside from Marquez, all of Manny's victims covered up when they get hit and starts moving back and away and doesn't want to engage. There's a reason why Floyd was and still hesitant to get in the ring with Manny. Think about it, if Floyd think it's that easy to beat Manny, he should've done it long time ago and we doesn't have this back and forth argument who is the best between the two.

[mathed]

If Pac was an easy fight, this thing would have happened years ago....stop deluding yourselves Floyd fans. Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana, Mosley........don't have good foot movement. Cotto cut off the ring pretty good but Floyd waited for him to become easier to beat before he accepted that challenge.

Pac's foot speed, hand speed, and angles will not be easy for Floyd. Also, don't think for one second that Floyd is the only person who knows what a pull counter is and Pac has the speed to easily land it too. Look for Floyd to tie up many times during this encounter should it happen and the ref WILL play a LARGE factor in how the fight plays out.

[Bolopunch68]

Eh, Pacquiao's jab is crap.
Best he can do to avoid counters is to feint.
Also, if he can sneak in some left uppercuts to the body like he did once with Algeri-who was back peddling. Might set-up some left hooks on Floyd.
Though, I can honestly only recall one time he shot the uppercut throughout the entire Algeri fight and probably just through desperation; but some versatility in his arsenal can always help.
I'm not too sure what Maidana was thinking with the over the top donkey kong punches. So Pacquiao can remove that off the list of do's. Floyd bends at times & can be susceptible for an uppercut.
I'm already sort of prepared to witness Pacquiao take a bunch of lead rights and check hooks.
I'll still be rooting for him though. :-)

Manny's jab is used primarily as a measuring stick, but when he wants to use it as a weapon, he snap that jab. Yes, he's not a jabber but who need a jab if you can go in and out throwing multiple punches in different angles, who can move on his opponent side away from harms way. Manny will eat some jabs from Floyd and some straight hands. Question is once Manny lands his shots how will Floyd reacts. He can't just cover coz punches will rain down on him. We will see a lot of clinches, forearm, pot shot and moving around from Floyd. Manny better concentrate on how he will cut the ring off and trapping Floyd against the ropes. Freddie is right, it will be his toughest fight to prepare and it will be Floyds team toughest fight to prepare as well. Close fight but It will not surprise me to see Floyd on his butt for the first time on his career.

[Robbie Barrett]

If Pac was an easy fight, this thing would have happened years ago....stop deluding yourselves Floyd fans. Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana, Mosley........don't have good foot movement. Cotto cut off the ring pretty good but Floyd waited for him to become easier to beat before he accepted that challenge.

Pac's foot speed, hand speed, and angles will not be easy for Floyd. Also, don't think for one second that Floyd is the only person who knows what a pull counter is and Pac has the speed to easily land it too. Look for Floyd to tie up many times during this encounter should it happen and the ref WILL play a LARGE factor in how the fight plays out.

Fast foot movement and good foot movement aren't the same thing. Watch the video i posted to see how bad Pacquiaos is.

[Bolopunch68]

Here's a good video that shows some of the major flaws in Pacquiaos style.

Problem with that is Marquez is willing to get tag just to land his. Is Floyd willing to do the same risk Marquez did? Floyd reset when gets tag and lays on the ropes lately. He'll hit Manny with his straight right, but Manny will land his straight left as well, problem with that is after the straight left, there's 3 or more punches coming after that.

[Robbie Barrett]

Problem with that is Marquez is willing to get tag just to land his. Is Floyd willing to do the same risk Marquez did? Floyd reset when gets tag and lays on the ropes lately. He'll hit Manny with his straight right, but Manny will land his straight left as well, problem with that is after the straight left, there's 3 or more punches coming after that.

The video is showing Pacquiao's flaws, the things he does in every fight when attacking. Forget that it's Marquez.