Comments Thread For: Freddie Roach Preparing For Floyd Mayweather Fight

[twosweethooks]

[QUOTE=Reloaded;15388923]Manny has been fighting C graders in Rios and Algieri both JWWs , Floyd has been fighting A graders that out weigh him alot , Floyd is now fighting somebody that is smaller than him , Manny will lose !

Even Mannys trainer knows who is the best .

What are you smoking ? A graders ? Jr ? That out weigh him ? Thats all that Pac has fought outside of Rios and Algieri. Everyone is bigger than Pac, but I digress.

Jr has NOT fought ONE prime ww elite in his LIFE !!!!!!!! He ducked All the Prime WW ELITES mang.

Wake up,,,you are pulling for a cur. He's got QUIT in his veins. He is showing all the bad signs.

Pac gonna kick him so bad he will be using his azzz for a hat.

[Johnwoo8686]

Styles make fights. Both guys present the other guy with challenges. That's one of the many reasons people have been clamoring for this fight.

Floyd Sr has always been adamant that he doesn't like his son fighting southpaws. Last time Jr fought one that had good handspeed, he had trouble early and was even knocked down. Pac is several levels above Judah both physically and mentally whereas Floyd is nowhere near as physically capable as he was in 2006. He'll have a hell of a time avoiding that quick, crisp, powerful straight left from Pac.

On the flip side, Pac has historically (though not as of late actually, barring the flash KO by Marquez) struggled somewhat with counter punchers who fight off the back foot. He has also been susceptible to right hands and Floyd has one of the best and most accurate in the business.

Personally, I think Floyd will have a tougher time figuring out Pac than vice versa. I know that's not the popular opinion, but I believe it's one that Floyd himself holds which is a huge reason he has feared for his health for so long. Everyone who has tried to walk Manny down since his rise from featherweight has been absolutely mangled and ripped apart. Those who thought they could simply fight on the back foot/shell up and throw an odd punch here or there were wiped out on the scorecard and several tasted the canvass a bunch of times.

The only person who has given him issues is Marquez who ENGAGES Manny, challenges him, times him, and throws combinations... not one pot shot every now and then. And even then how many times has he been dropped by Manny? He was getting wrecked in their latest fight before that 1 in a million shot. Floyd fights nothing like that. So it will be interesting to see what his game plan would be. Trying to pressure or walk Pac down is suicide. Backing up/Shelling up and not being active enough will guarantee a landslide decision for Manny even if he only lands like 20% of his punches. He'd win on volume and activity alone. If he comes out like he did against Maidana the first time and lays on the ropes all night... that's gonna be a KO/TKO victory for Manny.

Floyd is on the record he is all about working smart, not working hard these days. But he's a smart enough tactician to know he has to be far more active than he's been in almost a decade in order to win... at age 38.

I sincerely hope this fight happens.

This post ignores several factors. Floyd has never lost to a southpaw while Manny has lost several times to a counter puncher. Morales simply used Marquez's game plan in his fight with Manny, HBO was even quoted as saying he watched Manny's fight with Marquez 8 times to prepare. Floyd has fought 6 southpaws in his career (I think) and hasn't lost more than four rounds to any. Manny has been KO'd by a counter puncher and has dropped a decision when a boxer puncher used countering.

Floyd has slowed down but so has Manny. Manny's style, that aggressive athletic style, typically doesn't age as well as the technical pure boxer style. At 36 Manny is nowhere near as fast or as powerful as he was years ago. Even Roach is quoted as saying "this is Manny's biggest challenge ever." As he slows down the possibility of beating Floyd dwindles.

[Bolopunch68]

Actually it seems Mayweather currently has the advantage in the mental gamesmanship....if the rumors are correct he has the entire boxing wolrd waiting for him to announce the fight. Manny sounds like he doesn't even like discussing it out of fear of upsetting Mayweather.

I disagree, Manny is not afraid of upsetting May, he is using a psychological approach on how to treat a brat. He knows that May is egotistical maniac, so he do what most reasonable person do, let the child gets what he wants but in the end he's still gonna give that spanking when the time comes.

[crazed_z06]

I disagree, Manny is not afraid of upsetting May, he is using a psychological approach on how to treat a brat. He knows that May is egotistical maniac, so he do what most reasonable person do, let the child gets what he wants but in the end he's still gonna give that spanking when the time comes.

Pac just isnt the kind of guy who is a big talker. He does his talking in the ring.

Pac is like Maximus in Gladiator when Commidus is talking all kinds of crap and Maximus says, "The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end"

Floyd can play all the mental games he wants. If he dares get in the ring, none of that stuff will matter. Hopefully Floyd's ego overcomes rationality and he decides to fight Pac finally. Then he can lose like Commidus did.

[SergioMartinez]

[QUOTE=twosweethooks;15388976]

Manny has been fighting C graders in Rios and Algieri both JWWs , Floyd has been fighting A graders that out weigh him alot , Floyd is now fighting somebody that is smaller than him , Manny will lose !

Even Mannys trainer knows who is the best .

What are you smoking ? A graders ? Jr ? That out weigh him ? Thats all that Pac has fought outside of Rios and Algieri. Everyone is bigger than Pac, but I digress.

Jr has NOT fought ONE prime ww elite in his LIFE !!!!!!!! He ducked All the Prime WW ELITES mang.

Wake up,,,you are pulling for a cur. He's got QUIT in his veins. He is showing all the bad signs.

Pac gonna kick him so bad he will be using his azzz for a hat.

So the only prime WW's that Manny has fought is Cotto and Bradley pretty much.

Juan Marquez, Delahoya, Margarito, Mosley were all past it.

I'm not gonna put Chris Algeri and Brandon Rios in the sentence of being prime or elite.

[Bolopunch68]

I believe both fighters will be facing an opponent unlike any other opponent they've ever faced before on a stage bigger than any other stage they've ever performed on.

You're expecting Manny to play Mayweather's game like most of his opponents and that won't be the case.

Expect Emmanuel Pacquiao to fight like a fcking maniac!! I doubt either fighter's punch output drops. Do you forget what's all on the line here legacy wise (as well as financially)?! This is it! I doubt we'll ever again see either fighter fight with the ferocity focus and burning desire to win like they will fight on May 2.

I agree with you, Manny's killer instinct will be in full show come fight night. May's defensive wizardly will be in full effect. They will tag each other with some good shots, whoever withstood those big shots will definitely have the edge of winning the fight.

Will May engage toe to toe? Heck no! Will he clinch, move around and pot shot Manny? Heck yeah. He will never let Manny get into his rhythm coz he know damn well once Manny get into his groove, it's over for him. Manny and Freddie will have to come up with a perfect game plans. It'll be a close fight but I don't doubt we will see one of them on the canvas.

[Reloaded]

Pac just isnt the kind of guy who is a big talker. He does his talking in the ring.

Pac is like Maximus in Gladiator when Commidus is talking all kinds of crap and Maximus says, "The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end"

Floyd can play all the mental games he wants. If he dares get in the ring, none of that stuff will matter. Hopefully Floyd's ego overcomes rationality and he decides to fight Pac finally. Then he can lose like Commidus did.

Manny will be so pumped for this , everybody said he will lose but Manny is a miniature titan , a God amongst mere mortals , Floyd will be a trembling leaf when Manny beats his chest , Manny only has to be careful that he dont trip onto a fist because he got a cramp , bet your life savings on Manny you will never get odds like this on him again .

[Bolopunch68]

Manny has been fighting C graders in Rios and Algieri both JWWs , Floyd has been fighting A graders that out weigh him alot , Floyd is now fighting somebody that is smaller than him , Manny will lose !

Even Mannys trainer knows who is the best .

Yes Manny fought B and C level opposition on Rios and Algerie respectively, and yes May fought guys that are above the mentioned names. But what you fail to see or admit is that those fighters May fought are all slow and flat footed tailor made for May. On the other hand although Rios was slow and just covered up he did so to avoid getting KTFO, he said so himself after the fight. While Chris was fleet footed at first, once he tasted Manny's power he did what anyone that tasted Manny's power with the exception of Juan, to survive the fight. Manny's disadvantages are many compare to Mays, but no mistake he will bring the pain come fight night and we will see how May react whenever he get tag cleanly and often.

[Reloaded]

Chino is no better a fighter than either Rios or Algieri. And Bradley is the best opponent either guy has fought in the past few years. Manny spent his 2014 clowning previously undefeated fighters while Floyd had to fight Margarito lite twice before convincing anyone he could clearly beat him.

Chino is a better fighter than Rios and Algieri , and bigger with 76% ko ratio , was coming of 2 big WW wins winning a WW WT .

Canelo was undefeated and without a doubt in the same class as Bradley only 20lbs bigger .

Algeiri was a C grade bum that fought like an amateur , he got the fight by robbing Ruslan .

Rios was coming of a loss and a draw with average fighters at JWW , neither Rios or Algieri or Bradley had fought at WW before .

You will see what Im talking about when Floyd fights a smaller guy that is not as strong as he is , you will see .

[Dle]

Maidana today is no better than Algerie or Rios? You're dillusional. I'll bet PAC wouldn't even consider fighting Chino at this stage of his career. Too dangerous. Actually, nobody's calling out Maidana . Chino drpos Bradley if they fought.