Better win: Mayweather over Canelo or Pacquiao over Bradley(2)?

[Aztekkas]

Pacquiao's win over Bradley in the rematch is over all a much better win than Floyd's victory over Canelo at a CW of 152.

Not only was Bradley more proven at that point in time but he was coming off some massive back to back wins that included Pacquiao himself, a FOTY candidate against Ruslan Provodnikov and a great victory over a highly rated Marquez whom was coming off his brutal Pacquiao KO win.

Canelo on the other hand only had one significant win in Trout leading up to the Mayweather. I like Canelo but Bradley was lightyears ahead of him in regards to resume and proven ground leading into their respective fights.

Perhaps if Floyd had taken on Canelo after Saul had faced Trout, Lara and Angulo it could have been somewhat more difficult to call.. and even so Bradley still has significant wins over Alexander and Peterson on his resume to easily surpass the aforementioned names on Canelo's list.

[JrX]

Simple, Pacquiaos win, Canelo at 152 is garbage and not even that good at 154 and cant even make that weight. Dont give me that moved up in weight crap, Canelo has proven nothing. Bradley had already fights at 147 and is a proven champ. Also i believe canelo was pretty weight drained, look at the poor kid sitting on the chair during weigh ins, no emotion, excitement, nothing. He struggled to make that weight and floyd knew it in weigh ins

[smoothsmg]

I was never impressed by Bradley at all to be honest, to me the second fight was a fight where Pacquiao has a hard time beating a guy he already beat easily in the first fight, before this second fight Bradley was coming off a clear loss to Pacquiao (screw the scorecards), a knock out drag out with C+ B- level Provodnikov and a close decision win against 40 year old Marquez who was on his way to getting KOed by Pacquiao before he caught Pacquiao with a big right hand after Pacquiao made the terrible mistake he always does.
Bradley started to balloon in weight after fights especially after the first Pacquiao fight and he had to cut so much weight to make 147, which showed in his performance. Don't forget that he was also injured in both fights.
Lol at Bradley being top pound for pound fighter, people forget that he won the 147 lbs title by a BS decision against Pacquiao in 2012, I've never seen him perform in a way that made me even think he's a pound for pound level fighter!
Mayweather was a very small favorite against Canelo, he hasn't been this small of a favourite since 2007 and a lot of people thought the 23 year old prime big guy was going to upset the 36 year old smaller guy in Mayweather. I agree that Canelo at the time wasn't on a pound for pound level either but at least he was the unified WBC/WBA light MW champion and the number 1 ranked light MW in the world by the ring magazine. Of course it would've been better if the fight wasn't at a catch weight but I don't think 2 lbs should make a difference if the fighter had enough time to prepare for the fight, I never blame Cotto's loss to Pacquiao on the 2 extra pounds Cotto had to lose for the fight. Plus Canelo's camp were the ones that demanded the catchweight for some reason, which was not the smatest thing to do but Canelo came to the fight at 165+ lbs anyway and Floyd barely weighed 150.

I for one have never been impressed by bradley as well. Its funny though, but it makes sense on this board, but Bradley was always put down on this board in regards to his ugly fights, his head butt fest, his constant clinching, and foul infested fights, yet when he fights Manny in the first fight (and gets what some say is a gift decision) he is praised and considered one of the best. Only fights where this dude has looked semi-impressive was against Witter & peterson and both of those fights were full of fouls by Bradley. I always give him props for winning those fights, but the guy does nothing really too impressive. Think about this for a second, most to all say he lost to Manny in the first fight, alot of people thought he lost to Provo, some even felt he lost to Marquez. In those fights, especially Manny & Provo, did the guy look impressive.

[B-Bomber]

Bradley has a better resume than Canelo and is higher p4p.

Rigondeaux is much better than Maidana, but the thread is not about p4p lists, it's about actual fights.

Canelo was green, but also younger and bigger . Let's be honest, Canelo was already big at 154, in fact he needs to fight at 155.
He is a MW. The catchweight hinders the W to an extent.

Bradley is a small WW, he doesn't have much power, is good at everything and has a great heart. But with his tendency to brawl it was supposed to be a rather easy fight for Pac.

Pac himself underestimated the fight time around, playing diva, showing up late.

As said, Bradley is better than Canelo p4p , but Canelo was a potentially dangerous fight, and a better win than Bradley II imo.

[TOBYLEE1]

Pac beat Bradley twice, once unoficially and then in the second fight.

May dominated a bigger skilled fighter and Pac beat a p4p fighter.

I say it is about even

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pacquiao's win over Bradley, not by much of a margin. That said, Bradley has been disappointing, it's like he can look like a top fighter one moment and then look decent the next

[Beater_of_ass]

Floyds win over Canelo...as he had to move up and beat him...Bradley moved up to fight Manny

Floyd didn't have to move up to fight Floyd, he won the title at 154 at fought the ginger at 152. Floyd moved down in weight, Manny's wins over Bradley are much better than Floyds win over a guy who went from racing go-karts then jumped up the big boy league and it showed. Anyone who knows anything about boxing should have seen that outcome a mile away.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

i for one have never been impressed by bradley as well. Its funny though, but it makes sense on this board, but bradley was always put down on this board in regards to his ugly fights, his head butt fest, his constant clinching, and foul infested fights, yet when he fights manny in the first fight (and gets what some say is a gift decision) he is praised and considered one of the best. Only fights where this dude has looked semi-impressive was against witter & peterson and both of those fights were full of fouls by bradley. I always give him props for winning those fights, but the guy does nothing really too impressive. Think about this for a second, most to all say he lost to manny in the first fight, alot of people thought he lost to provo, some even felt he lost to marquez. In those fights, especially manny & provo, did the guy look impressive.

great post u said it all!

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Pacquiao's win over Bradley, not by much of a margin. That said, Bradley has been disappointing, it's like he can look like a top fighter one moment and then look decent the next

he was solid at 140, nothing special at 147 i give mayweathers win the edge... both good wins but bradley is a bit overrated at 147 around these parts...

[joesaiditstrue]

Hatton would beat David Diaz's ass...Just like Canelo would beat Bradley

Cong****. You missed his point.