Canelo beats Bradley and Manny , Floyd beats all three , not hard to work it out .
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Better win: Mayweather over Canelo or Pacquiao over Bradley(2)?
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBradley was a better win because on paper he was a better fighter than Canelo and proven. Canelo maybe bigger, stronger, but he hadn't beat anyone. That's how you judge it, not how much you can bench press which is basically your argument. Floyd took all those advantages away further by draining Canelo, so Canelo fight night probably wasn't stronger, had no power or stamina. He never had stamina anyway and that is probably more important than power and strength. So how is Canelo a better win? Weve already established he isn't a better win, so why are people still debating it.?
At the time Bradley was unbeaten, we are not talking about how much credit Pac would get for beating Bradley now. Pacs ruined him afterall. I could probably beat Bradley now.
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There is no question Pacquiao over Bradley. Bradley is entering the fight as certified elite after just giving a schooling to the legendary Juan Manuel Marquez, while on the other hand, Canelo is a certified green fighter, not even on the elite level. Floyd got him very green. Cotto is an even better for floyd than canelo. But bradley is different because; once again, bradley is a certified elite, a true pound for pounder who is one of the most versatile fighter today. Put bradley on other fighters and he schools them. He is no joke.Last edited by ButtScratcher^^; 02-19-2015, 07:52 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBradley was a better win because on paper he was a better fighter than Canelo and proven. Canelo maybe bigger, stronger, but he hadn't beat anyone. That's how you judge it, not how much you can bench press which is basically your argument. Floyd took all those advantages away further by draining Canelo, so Canelo fight night probably wasn't stronger, had no power or stamina. He never had stamina anyway and that is probably more important than power and strength. So how is Canelo a better win? Weve already established he isn't a better win, so why are people still debating it.?
At the time Bradley was unbeaten, we are not talking about how much credit Pac would get for beating Bradley now. Pacs ruined him afterall. I could probably beat Bradley now.
JMM had no shot. Why?
Because every single way you look at it, Floyd got him beat. Speed, size, skill, reach, strenght (not to bench press, but to get off your inside game, duh)...
JMM was a counter puncher, but Floyd is so defensive that there arent alot of opportunities to counter him. So even stylistically JMM was in trouble.
Point blank, he had nothing for Floyd.
Thats how I feel about Pac vs Bradley. I dont care if Bradley was p4p number 1 through 10 with a resume that puts Duran to shame. When I look at the matchup, I dont see a path to victory for him.
The two beatdowns he got from Pac prove my point, by the way.
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Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View PostWhat did people say when Floyd vs elite JMM was announced?
JMM had no shot. Why?
Because every single way you look at it, Floyd got him beat. Speed, size, skill, reach, strenght (not to bench press, but to get off your inside game, duh)...
JMM was a counter puncher, but Floyd is so defensive that there arent alot of opportunities to counter him. So even stylistically JMM was in trouble.
Point blank, he had nothing for Floyd.
Thats how I feel about Pac vs Bradley. I dont care if Bradley was p4p number 1 through 10 with a resume that puts Duran to shame. When I look at the matchup, I dont see a path to victory for him.
The two beatdowns he got from Pac prove my point, by the way.
What did they say?
They said, why is Floyd fighting a guy that was fighting at 130 a year ago and who never fought at 140 nor 147. Plus Marquez doesn't perform as well against counter punchers. Yet, Floyd fought him and came over the initially contracted weight limit by 2lbs.
Unlike Floyd with Marquez, it was a bit different with Canelo. Canelo actually did come down to 152 CW.
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