Is Boxing the only Sport that has not Improved over the Years?

[Suckmedry]

Boxing is one of the sports that has undergone the most pronounced and significant improvements of any sport!

In the past, it was possible for nostalgists to make outrageous claims. That time came to an end approximately the year 2000 with the advent of boxrec and the uploading of old fight footage so we could see just how bad these old boxers really were.

The more variable skill and athletic dimensions involved in a sport, the greater the drive on it for improvement (obviously). And boxing is one of the more technical sports, especially compared with weight-lifting and sprinting.

And of course, boxing is possibly the highest stakes sport in the world, where losing does not merely mean a dented ego, but often also a dented skull and concussion. This kind of competition forces improvement on a level removed from other sports.

The claims of the delusionists are nonsense!

As usual you make no sense. You correctly say boxing is a more technical sport...so how do things like a guy running 100m faster prove that fighters today are better.

[MrRolltide91]

The sport itself has devolved slowly since the early 80s..

Watered down amateur system and protecting and inactive matchmaking for prospects have caused fighters not to be as polished

basically...

[Suckmedry]

Sugar Adam made a great point about the am system.

Up until the 80s, it was basically just pro boxing but 3 rounds and you didn't get paid. same scoring systems, same criteria for winning rounds etc

Then in the 80s-90s computer scoring was introduced. This scoring system mandated that 3 out of 5 judges had to press their button within a second for a point to be scored..Okay so the consequence of this, was that scoring punches needed to be immediately visible to judges in order to get recorded...meaning body shots and inside work stopped getting paid almost completely, jabs often didn't get paid either unless they snapped the head back, so what fighters were looking for were straight rights to the head, often set up by lots of pawing jabs.

Its a far more upright style of boxing than traditional old school american boxing. its weakness in the pros is that a good inside fighter will get in where you aren't comfortable or experienced and work your body over.

Example: Ward-Kessler.

[Suckmedry]

No they didn't, but safety for the user as well as testing are concerns they didn't worry about in the past.

I think the world is more anti drug/cheat today, in the past they might have just thought of it as a secret weapon.


But they have been so many more advancements in sport and a lot of boxers are using these methods now.

Plus more training less fights are better for a boxer's development.

A lot of boxers get some very good sparring these days.

This tells me clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. Nothing replaces real in ring experience in this sport, nothing. Sparring is great but it doesnt compare to how much more you grow when you get under those lights in front of a crowd.

[JasonBoxing]

Or are we just too nostalgic.

Weightlifter lift more.
Sprinters are faster

Footballers score more goals

Baseball players hit more home runs

Snooker players get more century breaks

Tennis is played at a higher level

With the advancement of sports science, sportsmen being more professional tactics and training methods have made huge gains in all other sports.

All except one.

Well that is if you listen to your average boxing fan

Which sees boxing in a very nostalgic way. Where the boxers in the past were faster, hit harder, could take a better punch, were tougher and had more stamina, more skilful and had better tactical awarness.

Hard to believe yes. Despite all other sports improving boxing has gone backwards.


Are you one of those that believe this rubbish?

Luckily they time the 100m or some of you would be claiming Lewis was faster than bolt

Footballers don't score more goals. TWO footballers score more goals. Ronaldo and Messi score more goals because they are two of the greatest ever. In Messi's case, he might just be the greatest ever.

Every other footballer actually score LESS goals. Today's top strikers are clearly a tier below the days of Henry,Brazilian Ronaldo,Rivaldo,Shearer,Ruud.

You think the likes of Aguero and Costa are as good as Henry was? No.

Outside or Ronaldo/Messi.........football have declined in talent as well.

Look at today's top 10 AFTER RONALDO/MESSI. Compare them to the likes of
Zidane/Figo/Ronaldo/Ronaldinho/Henry/Sheva/Raul etc etc..........

[JasonBoxing]

Some don't even believe that.

Actually basketball have decreased as well.

Are you seriously telling me that Cousins/Marc Gasol/Dwight Howard/Davis is >than Shaq/Hakeem/Ewing/Mourning/Robinson/Yao/KG/Wallace/Webber eras? No they are not.

Outside of Lebron and Durant, it is very obvious that today's era is not as talented as

Prime KOBE/SHAQ/DUNCAN/KG/DIRK/IVERSON/MCGRADY/CARTER/KIDD.
It's not.


From top to bottom both Football and Basketball are clearly inferior to the 90's-2000's.

As is the Heavyweights.

How the **** can you say Wlad+the rest is >than Lewis/Holyfield/Bowe+the rest?

Lewis alone will brutally KO Wlad.

[JasonBoxing]

No they didn't, but safety for the user as well as testing are concerns they didn't worry about in the past.

I think the world is more anti drug/cheat today, in the past they might have just thought of it as a secret weapon.


But they have been so many more advancements in sport and a lot of boxers are using these methods now.

Plus more training less fights are better for a boxer's development.

A lot of boxers get some very good sparring these days.

So you think Povetkin will KO Holyfield? So you think Pulev will beat Lewis? Is that it? Rofl. Tell me that's what you think.

So Carl Froch will beat James Toney?


Dwight Howard is >than Shaq? Is that it?
DWIGHT HOWARD >THAN SHAQ

How can SHAQ POSSIBLY COMPETE TODAY?

Sergio Aguero is more deadly than Ronaldo?

Goatze is >than Ronaldinho

CURRENT LAMPARD IS >THAN PRIME LAMPARD?

Is that it? Tell me again how 2015 athletes are better than 90's-early 2000's.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Sugar Adam made a great point about the am system.

Up until the 80s, it was basically just pro boxing but 3 rounds and you didn't get paid. same scoring systems, same criteria for winning rounds etc

Then in the 80s-90s computer scoring was introduced. This scoring system mandated that 3 out of 5 judges had to press their button within a second for a point to be scored..Okay so the consequence of this, was that scoring punches needed to be immediately visible to judges in order to get recorded...meaning body shots and inside work stopped getting paid almost completely, jabs often didn't get paid either unless they snapped the head back, so what fighters were looking for were straight rights to the head, often set up by lots of pawing jabs.

Its a far more upright style of boxing than traditional old school american boxing. its weakness in the pros is that a good inside fighter will get in where you aren't comfortable or experienced and work your body over.

Example: Ward-Kessler.

The Olympics are going back to the old 10-9 system I believe, so hopefully things start getting better and Olympic fighters transitioning become accustom to the pros in easier fashion.

[Elroy1]

The solution is a no-brainer. Everybody knows it.

"EVERY ERA OF BOXERS IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THAT PRECEDED IT, BECAUSE ATHLETES AND SPORTSMEN GET BETTER AND FASTER AND STRONGER FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION"

Any argument to the contrary is based on nothing more than...

- Racism
- Nationalism
- Nostalgism
- Indoctrination
- ******ity
- Profit
- Popularity

And most often a combination of those points. This is an exhaustive list.

The saddest examples are young folk like OneRound, basically completely brainwashed since birth and completely unable to make even a cursory analysis of his own or think for himself.

Just a shell of a boy now, singled out because of his double digit intelligence and worked over by guys like Ray, at the top of the mythology-mill that feed young simpletons this garbage in an effort to keep the mythology alive and cause enormous damage to boxing as a sport.

Fortunately they are running out of places to hide now

[Suckmedry]

The solution is a no-brainer. Everybody knows it.

"EVERY ERA OF BOXERS IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THAT PRECEDED IT, BECAUSE ATHLETES AND SPORTSMEN GET BETTER AND FASTER AND STRONGER FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION"

Any argument to the contrary is based on nothing more than...

- Racism
- Nationalism
- Nostalgism
- Indoctrination
- ******ity
- Profit
- Popularity

And most often a combination of those points. This is an exhaustive list.

The saddest examples are young folk like OneRound, basically completely brainwashed since birth and completely unable to make even a cursory analysis of his own or think for himself.

Just a shell of a boy now, singled out because of his double digit intelligence and worked over by guys like Ray, at the top of the mythology-mill that feed young simpletons this garbage in an effort to keep the mythology alive and cause enormous damage to boxing as a sport.

Fortunately they are running out of places to hide now

Elroy I'm gonna put this simply- I know more about the sport than you. I trained hard from ages 12-17, did tons of sparring, had 20 fights, won a few titles, boxed a couple guys that went on to the olympics, and should have had way more fights if not for difficulty finding opponents at my weight. Ive been a hardcore fan since '06, and in that time Ive studied the sport pretty thoroughly. i'm not a boastful guy but i will state facts and speak on what i know about, and boxing is something i know a lot about.

And btw my IQ was tested at 126 when i was 17. Dont care how that sounds its a fact. So shut the fck up and don't call me a boy either, In a week ill be 21.