Is Boxing the only Sport that has not Improved over the Years?

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  • D4thincarnation
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    #111
    Originally posted by JasonBoxing
    I'm taking a HUGE sample size people.


    The bottom line is this:

    The likes of
    Roy/Lennox/Toney/Hopkins/Holyfield/Bowe/Benn/Mccellan/Eubank/Dariuz/
    calzaghe/Pernell Whitakker/Oscar/Felix Trinidad/Mccellan/ would do very very well against

    Floyd/Pac/Wlad/Rigo/GGG/Kovalev/Ward/Froch/Cotto/Marquez etc etc


    There is no 'evolution' that Alexander ***ing Povetkin have done in comparison to Rid**** Bowe.

    Bowe would brutally murder Povetkin.

    Golota Brutalized Bowe

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      #112
      Originally posted by Bullrush
      you throw general statements out there based on nothing. come up with some facts that actually prove your point or shut the **** up you dunceky
      Not general statements.

      FACTS!

      You don't believe Bolt was quicker than Lewis?

      You don't believe weight lifting records are falling despite some obvious drug use in the 70s and 80s

      You don't believe the skill levels/ standards have risen in football, snooker, tennis?


      If you don't believe, then you are a fool, because it is accepted and measurable.

      Are we to really believe that boxing is a special sport that has not improved when all the other sports have.

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        #113
        Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
        I feel the issue isn't with the fighters. Its that many of the ex-fighters were trained by men who have probably seen boxing's evolution.

        Those trainers saw or at least heard of Dempsey or Louis and took the sweet science seriously. They were able to study those scientists in the ring and teach it to guys like Roberto Duran.

        Hell, Robert Garcia is content with his corner advice consisting of
        "Mas fuerte."
        "More punches."
        "Don't stop."

        The lack of truly intelligent and elite trainers is diminishing, even then right now there only a handful of elite fighters that people can truly study the sweet science from. Whereas back in the 40s etc. the skill was so abundant there was so much to learn and so much to innovate off.

        We're in an era where men like Broner can make millions fighting sub-par opposition. We're not in the Great Depression. There is no color barrier. You can make much more money at a lower level of skill as opposed to back in the day.


        Elite trainers, don't give me that. Great fighters make great trainers, not the other way around.

        All these trainers trained boxers, and a few of them became trainers. There methods are not all that because the game has moved on.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          The sport itself has devolved slowly since the early 80s..

          Watered down amateur system and protecting and inactive matchmaking for prospects have caused fighters not to be as polished

          An amateur system that has produced fighters such as Ward, Rigo, Lomachenko and Golovkin

          Give me a break, Watered down

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            #115
            Originally posted by JasonBoxing
            So you think Povetkin will KO Holyfield? So you think Pulev will beat Lewis? Is that it? Rofl. Tell me that's what you think.

            So Carl Froch will beat James Toney?


            Dwight Howard is >than Shaq? Is that it?
            DWIGHT HOWARD >THAN SHAQ

            How can SHAQ POSSIBLY COMPETE TODAY?

            Sergio Aguero is more deadly than Ronaldo?

            Goatze is >than Ronaldinho

            CURRENT LAMPARD IS >THAN PRIME LAMPARD?

            Is that it? Tell me again how 2015 athletes are better than 90's-early 2000's.
            Wlad might Evander.

            Ronaldo is better than Figo

            Messi is better than Ronaldino

            Golovkin beats Hopkins

            Don't have a clue about basketball.

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              #116
              Originally posted by One more round
              Look. Boxing has not "regressed" so to speak, its just that with fewer gyms today, fewer trainers and fewer fighters some old school techniques and tricks have faded out. as an example thats why a guy like andre ward can school top level guys, he has tricks on the inside which aren't as used today. same reason why a fat old james toney could stand there with HWs like Rahman and Peter.

              boxing is not a jump or a running race, its a heavily skill based sport but still has an athletic component.

              I cant understand guys who say things like fighters are more powerful today..where are all the punchers then? besides GGG, Wlad K, donaire, Pacquiao...true punchers are few and far between today at the top.

              If a puncher like Hearns or Robinson was around today at welter...good god they wouldnt even be able to land a fight.

              Boxing gyms are all over the world now, with more fighters turning pro.

              Those old tricks don't work as well and there are new tricks and counter tactics these days.

              Gloves are more padded these days more protection but we still have some devasting punchers.

              If they wore old 6oz horse hair gloves, everyone would be murderous punchers.

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                #117
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Yeah, and they've migrated to dozens of other sports that make better money and don't involve getting your brains beaten in so you end up a vegetable at 40 or 50. There are a lot less fighters today than there used to be.

                Those sports were always around.

                More people boxing today world wide than there has ever been.

                And if you are worried about getting your brain beaten in you are never going to be a top boxer.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                  Please meet my good friend, George Benton.


                  Just makes me think, look at the poor quality of opposition he is facing.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Simurgh
                    There you go..


                    Tyson knows boxing and knows what he is on about.

                    Some people still look at the past through rose colour specs

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Dagomba
                      Whoever doesn't think Boxing has evolved in all aspects needs to get smacked on the damn face.

                      So true.

                      I don't think we appreciate the current boxers, but ever generation has done the same.

                      Thinking boxing is at a low point and it was a golden age in the past.

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