Putting Floyd in his Place

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #21
    Top 10. Maybe Top 5 when it's all said and done. It's been damn near 20 years and no one better than him has come along. That says it all.

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    • creekrat77
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      #22
      Floyd's somewhere in the top 20 ATG list in my opinion. I'd say anywhere from being ranked 10th - 20th would be fair. The thing is, when Floyd jumped ship so he could be advised by Al Haymon, it was clearly obvious match-making for Floyd Mayweather revolved around picking opponents who were both low risk and high reward. At Top Rank, before Floyd could plead his A-side future superstar dogma, he fought who Top Rank management had decided on. In Floyd's mind, a boxers personal career must be carefully managed to insure the A side stays unblemished. In Bob Arums mind, boxers are athletes and matching boxers together is about making great fights that up the stock significantly of both active fighters. Not about staging a "great" fight for the future prospect to build momentum. That's why you see someone by the likes of Manny Pacquiao, a lightweight, jumping up to fight Oscar and Cotto at welterweight. Where is you see Floyd winning a SD against Oscar (refusing the rematch) and opting to fight Hatton (he was at least undefeated and had a great fan base)and following up with Marquez (jumping up from 135). It's really what ever you prefer and is different for everybody. I don't think boxers, as athletes, should be able to have supreme control on how their resume unfolds. People who are for this make the assumption that promotional companies like Top Rank simply don't take in account a fighters health and will toss broken fighters to the curb when they are used up. Yea this obviously does happen, but this is the sport of boxing. The problem is with these free-agents taken under the wing of the elusive Al Haymon, they are oversaturating the market with watered down fights that are either too late, uncompetitive, or pointless.

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      • HeGotPacProblem
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        #23
        In the #20-25 for me.

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        • solo20
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          #24
          30-40 for both clowns not there fault in this era is all about cherry picking and this era has produce weak champions

          I find it shocking how anybody can have these guys any where near 1-29
          in there ATG list to many great fighters out there with better wins in the last 100 years of boxing
          Last edited by solo20; 02-09-2015, 11:40 PM.

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          • Yogi007
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            #25
            Originally posted by 80sFighter
            Right on. :

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            • SlySlickSmooth
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              #26
              Floyd is probably top 35. Its way too hard to just place a fighter in the rankings especially an unfinished career.

              There's a lot of good names and to break top 10 is big.

              Robinson
              Leonard
              Duran
              Louis
              Ali
              Greb
              Tunney
              Saddler
              Hagler
              Monzon
              Pep
              Whitaker
              Moore
              Charles

              Tough, tough competition.... I haven't even compiled a top list myself. To really make my own legit list I would need to do more film study.

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              • kiDynamite92
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                #27
                Way outside the top 25 and no chance of top 10.

                Robinson
                Ali
                Leonard
                Hearns
                Hagler
                Duran
                Jones
                Greb
                Armstrong
                Langford
                Charles
                Spinks
                Louis
                Holyfield
                Lewis
                Foreman

                Are all fighters just off the top of my head who are greater then Floyd.

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                • CJRock
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  I sometimes think Leonard is too honest, damn
                  Honest?? Leonard is a scumbag. He was officially retired from boxing & was acting as advisor to Donald Curry. Don was having trouble making 147 & wanted to move up & challenge Marvin Hagler. Leonard badgered him & convinced him to wait . What no one knew was that Leonard was negociating the Hagler fight for himself. He completely screwed up Don. Leonard never came back after that. The worst part of it all was in the fight they also screwed Marvin Hagler when they gave Leonard the decision.
                  In my book Leonard is lower than a snakes belly

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                  • DeadLikeMe
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                    Way outside the top 25 and no chance of top 10.

                    Robinson
                    Ali
                    Leonard
                    Hearns
                    Hagler
                    Duran
                    Jones
                    Greb
                    Armstrong
                    Langford
                    Charles
                    Spinks
                    Louis
                    Holyfield
                    Lewis
                    Foreman

                    Are all fighters just off the top of my head who are greater then Floyd.
                    ermmm.....wut?

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                    • kiDynamite92
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                      ermmm.....wut?
                      Holmes? Qawi? Muhammad?

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