Putting Floyd in his Place

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  • IMDAZED
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    #51
    Originally posted by whirlout
    I actually was excited to watch your video upon the mention of Pacquaio in your post. Disappointing I must say 'cos nothing in that video has a slight semblance to what Manny Pacquaio brings. I 'll tell u this and I 'll tell u slowly, if Mayweather approaches Pacquaio (even this declined version) in the same manner if fought those dudes, he will not see round 7. You can book that. His best bet would be to go into his shell and potshot his way to a decision and even that against a Pacman would be a tall order.
    I think you'll see Mayweather do that early on but walking Manny down has to be part of the plan.

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    • sugarsmosley
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      #52
      It's not a debate, hes the best ever and anyone that denies is hating.

      He could've stayed retired after hatton and would still be the GOAT. After seeing his beating of genaro hernandez, I knew he was already the best athlete the world has ever seen. When he slapped the **** out of Gatti, i knew i was in love.

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      • joseph5620
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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Yeah man it's hard to compare generations. When I was younger I used to hate hearing that fighters of yester-year were better than fighters of present time. But it's true. That said, I think guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao compete with the best of any era. How much does a win over the other move one up? And is there another opponent out there that could catapult them higher?


        Head to head and talent wise at their peak, those two are tough for any fighter in history within their best weight class.

        A lot of people overlook that these two are no longer in th heir primes and have moved up multiple divisions.

        They were both at their best in lower weight classes. The fact they have been successful with the weight jump is great in itself.

        There are only a handful of fighters who have won champions at 135 and 147. That's a tough transition.


        It also annoys me when I see people saying things like "Duran would have killed Mayweather!" No he wouldn't have. It would have been a tough fight for both at 130-135.


        As far as what they could do to enter top 10? One beating the other moves them much closer. Retiring with another signature win would make a strong case for the top 10 in my opinion. I think years after retirement fighters are much more appreciated.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 02-10-2015, 10:56 AM.

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        • joseph5620
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          #54
          Originally posted by Wizardsh
          That's being generous Id say high 40's and even that is generous his competition is a joke with a lot of weak champions. The guy pac you love so much would rank lower "sarcasm"
          If it's so generous make a list of 45 fighters that were better than Mayweather. This should be easy for you since you believe it's generous. I'll wait.

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          • joseph5620
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            #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            To be honest I really don't think so. In retrospect, Margarito isn't a career-defining win for anyone. And if you look at any past great's resume, you'll find champions like that who they missed for one reason or the other.
            It certainly didn't do that for Paul Williams. People were still calling him overrated and overhyped after he beat Margarito.

            I saw a lot people say they would give Mayweather credit if he fought or beat Mosley after the Margarito vs Mosley fight.


            Well it sure didn't turn out that way after the fight. Nothing but excuses now. Margarito would have been the same thing.

            Margarito was not good enough to be called career defining. Jose Luis Castillo was a better win and fighter. If that didn't do it, Margarito wouldn't either.
            Last edited by joseph5620; 02-10-2015, 11:11 AM.

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            • KillaMane26
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              #56
              There are no current fighters in the top 10, 15, or top 20.......MAybe top 25.......and that still reaching....its just too many legends who fought other legends......Only Causal fans are quick to place current fighters in top 10 ATG

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              • SlySlickSmooth
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                #57
                if Floyd beats Pacquiao with like a 117-111 even 116-112 type of win.. Floyd goes up in the rankings big time.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                  Way outside the top 25 and no chance of top 10.

                  Robinson
                  Ali
                  Leonard
                  Hearns
                  Hagler
                  Duran
                  Jones
                  Greb
                  Armstrong
                  Langford
                  Charles
                  Spinks
                  Louis
                  Holyfield
                  Lewis
                  Foreman

                  Are all fighters just off the top of my head who are greater then Floyd.
                  Floyd can be ranked higher then these 3 easily

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by alexguiness
                    For me the heart of the issue lies in Floyd's first 'retirement'.

                    He deliberately took time out from the sport when it the WW division was packed with prime fighters that were a real threat AND when he was arguably at his prime.

                    Then he comes back (because he may go broke) - and its all cherry pick, health comes first, rich coward BS.


                    He has taken a lot form the sport that has given him everything - yet gives nothing back but BS.

                    Top 40 ATG.

                    And I am being kind...
                    His comeback has actually made his resume much better

                    Jmm
                    Mosley
                    Ortiz
                    Cotto
                    Canelo
                    Guerrero
                    Maidana

                    4 titles in 2 divisions 2 ring titles and 2 lineal titles

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                    • El-blanco
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX
                      Floyd can be ranked higher then these 3 easily
                      Easily higher than roy jones? Come on man, who has he beat that's as good as James toney at the time? Jones beat guy that weighed 30 pounds heavier than him.

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