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So after Ward shakes off the ring rust, will you want to see him move up to 175?

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  • #71
    No we all want to see ggg step up to the plate and fight a real fight

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    • #72
      Ward will make Stevenson look very mediocre.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        Same here. Or Andre Dirrell if he were to beat DeGale.
        I was sleeping on DeGale, but he woke me up in 2014 with solid performances. He just seems in a zone right now, and I'm picking him to beat Dirrell.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
          You want Miguel Cotto, who has never weighed above 155 lbs. in his entire career and has been shot since his welterweight fights with Plasterito and Pacquiao according to 95% of Boxing Scene, to fight Golovkin at 160 lbs.

          You want Canelo, who has never weighed above 155 lbs. in his entire career to fight Golovkin at 160 lbs.

          You want Mayweather, who has never weighed more than 151 lbs. in his entire career to fight Golovkin at 160 lbs.

          You want Ward to vacate his 168 lb. lineal championship to move to 175 lbs.

          Golovkin? You ignore that he agreed to move to 168 for Chavez Jr. and Froch. You want him to stay at 160 lbs. to feast on WWs, JMWs, Andy Lee, and David Lemeiux.

          Hypocrisy. ******ation. Delusion. Fear.
          If you can't stand the heat, gtfo of the kitchen.

          If you hold the middleweight strap, defend it against the best or relinquish it.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by sicko View Post
            Your doing what most do...just assuming and making up a bunch of BS, Ward is not going to fight "2 Warm Up Fights" but I would have no problem with him getting 1 Warm Up Fight...Why Not? Check his track Record, Ward spent the last 3 Years of his career fighting the very best in his Division with no excuses.

            Who said that once you reach the top of your Division and clean it out you should move up? Fighters move up when they outgrow a Division Physically and can't make weight at that Division anymore for the most part.

            I'm not trying to rush GGG up in weight just like I don't think Ward should just move up in weight for the hell of it. It is Complete Option for BOTH...but I do like to poke and point out the BS from some fans on this FORUM and how they set this Hilariously Bias Double Standards based on fighters who they like Personally.

            As for their style match up in the ring...I've seen Ward vs many of styles including guys with Vicious Power, GGG brings NOTHING that he hasn't seen before, NOTHING! That being said I do know for a FACT that GGG haven't faced anybody even CLOSE to Ward's Level!
            His own trainer,Virgil hunter said that he needs 2 tune ups,before he gets back to fighting top level competition. He's had 2 fights in the last three years and he's lost his p4p ranking,so he hasnt really been that impressive since the super six. I'd understand that you'd prefer him not to move up in weight but don't act like he can't. He fought at 178 in the amatures,and he's been saying how he'd move up since 2011. We both have different opinions on who'd win the fight. obviously I favor golovkin and you favor ward,but I think that we can both agree that the fight has to happen eventually. If it doesn't, ward doesn't have anything left to prove at 168,and it will be years before someone comes out that could give him a legitimate challenge at that weight. So wouldn't you want him to face the winner of kovalev Stevenson, and become the unified world champion at 168,and 175?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
              It's funny how Golovkin pops on the scene proclaiming he'll fight anybody from 154-168. Everyone ducks him because he looks like a monster. Then the SMW king says let's fight. Now here's a guy that Golovkin can prove himself against. A top 2 fighter in the sport and a lineal champion in one of the 3 weight classes Golovkin claimed to be willing to take on all comers. Suddenly, Golovkin is no longer interested. He'll fight Froch or Chavez Jr. at the weight, but not the best fighter in that division. He's more concerned with fighting Andy Lee or Miguel Cotto. Real brave.
              OK.....so Golovkin doesn't want to fight Ward yet. Is it fair to say that he should work his way up to Ward by fighting another 168 before facing the top dog? Plus the money is not there yet because Ward ain't doing shyt to make himself a draw, like saying he will fight anybody anywhere for starters. If Ward wants it that bad, how about he move down to 160? He doesn't drain himself to make 168 so 160 should be no problem. Bottom line, Ward (and you) need to let it go and move on with his career because he's NOT set financially and WON'T be as long as he's only trying to fight in Oakland.

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              • #77
                I remember Ward said he would fight floyd @160 but not GGG and also remember GGG SIGNING too fight Chavez at 68
                To me ggg has the more lucrative fights waiting on him not so much Ward
                I know ward was all talk when he turned down Stevenson request for 2 fight deal at 68 and 75

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
                  His own trainer,Virgil hunter said that he needs 2 tune ups,before he gets back to fighting top level competition. He's had 2 fights in the last three years and he's lost his p4p ranking,so he hasnt really been that impressive since the super six. I'd understand that you'd prefer him not to move up in weight but don't act like he can't. He fought at 178 in the amatures,and he's been saying how he'd move up since 2011. We both have different opinions on who'd win the fight. obviously I favor golovkin and you favor ward,but I think that we can both agree that the fight has to happen eventually. If it doesn't, ward doesn't have anything left to prove at 168,and it will be years before someone comes out that could give him a legitimate challenge at that weight. So wouldn't you want him to face the winner of kovalev Stevenson, and become the unified world champion at 168,and 175?
                  How many tune ups Floyd needed back in 2009 -- when he came back and just bumped into Juan Manuel Marquez?

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
                    How many tune ups Floyd needed back in 2009 -- when he came back and just bumped into Juan Manuel Marquez?
                    wasn't that a tune up? guy moving up 2 weight divisions with perfect style for floyd seems like a tune up. if ward fought carlos molina that would be the equivalent.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      Golokvin's people said a few years ago that he'd fight anyone from 154-168. Abel Sanchez said the other day that Golovkin would knock out anyone from 154-168. They signed to fight Chavez at 168. They want to fight Froch at 168.

                      "Ward has to move down doe!"

                      Wow....what a pathetic attitude for a fan of the so called most feared fighter in boxing
                      GGG is the A side doe.

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