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The commentary that night and the awful Legendary Nights series have painted a picture of this fight that really isn't accurate. Pretty much every single round was closely contested, yet it was always Taylor's flurries that got the credit over Chavez's more efficient, damaging punches - even when Chavez was doing a lot of good defensive work in these exchanges.
Just talking about fights like this really illustrate how ****ing god awful this era is. You could excuse the fact that the talent level in boxing today is about as deep as a paddling pool if these f*ggots actually got into a ring and fought.
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The Taylor fight wasn't the first or last time Chavez received a helping hand from officialdom. In 1981 he was disqualified in the first round against Miguel Ruiz. However, the local boxing commission in Culican (on which JC's manager, Ramon Felix, served) altered the verdict the next day, changing it to a KO win for Chavez. In 1986 he was given a majority decision against Rocky Lockridge. Most ringsiders had Lockridge ahead. The worst was his 1993 'draw' with Pernell Whitaker. Although Sweet Pea was past his best he totally outboxed and outfought JC (I watched it again recently and had Whitaker winning nine rounds clearly). Then in his return fight with Frankie Randall in 1994 Chavez refused to fight on in the eighth round despite referee Mills Lane's pleas for him to continue. Lane felt JC's cut wasn't bad enough to stop the fight, but Chavez decided to pull out, so it should have been a stoppage win for Randall. In 1998 Chavez was given a draw against Miguel Angel Gonzalez. Reporters later examined the cards and found that one had been added incorrectly. The correct addition would have made Gonzalez the winner.
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Originally posted by Norm Peterson View PostThe commentary that night and the awful Legendary Nights series have painted a picture of this fight that really isn't accurate. Pretty much every single round was closely contested, yet it was always Taylor's flurries that got the credit over Chavez's more efficient, damaging punches - even when Chavez was doing a lot of good defensive work in these exchanges.
Just talking about fights like this really illustrate how ****ing god awful this era is. You could excuse the fact that the talent level in boxing today is about as deep as a paddling pool if these f*ggots actually got into a ring and fought.
If Steele hadn't stopped it, I would have had Taylor winning by a single point. And there was at least one toss-up round that could have gone either way (7th I think?).
It's a bigger shame that the stoppage overshadows the fight though, because it was one of the best fights of the last 30 years.
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I had it 7-4 to Taylor going into the last round, so a one point difference is what my scorecard would have ended up with had it gone to the final bell. The two wide scorecards in Taylor's favour weren't a fair reflection of the fight at all.
Originally posted by Gavinevans View PostThe Taylor fight wasn't the first or last time Chavez received a helping hand from officialdom. In 1981 he was disqualified in the first round against Miguel Ruiz. However, the local boxing commission in Culican (on which JC's manager, Ramon Felix, served) altered the verdict the next day, changing it to a KO win for Chavez. In 1986 he was given a majority decision against Rocky Lockridge. Most ringsiders had Lockridge ahead. The worst was his 1993 'draw' with Pernell Whitaker. Although Sweet Pea was past his best he totally outboxed and outfought JC (I watched it again recently and had Whitaker winning nine rounds clearly). Then in his return fight with Frankie Randall in 1994 Chavez refused to fight on in the eighth round despite referee Mills Lane's pleas for him to continue. Lane felt JC's cut wasn't bad enough to stop the fight, but Chavez decided to pull out, so it should have been a stoppage win for Randall. In 1998 Chavez was given a draw against Miguel Angel Gonzalez. Reporters later examined the cards and found that one had been added incorrectly. The correct addition would have made Gonzalez the winner.
I'd love to see a source for this "most ringsiders had Lockridge ahead." Rocky made it competitive but still lost eight rounds. Chavez spent large portions of that fight boxing beautifully on the backfoot and countering.
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and he shouldn't.
when you think a fighter has had enough, you stop the fight. a ref is not a clock.
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how does this keep coming back up? the ref has a birds eye view. he's never around 5ft away from the action. look at taylor after the fight,a month later,and now years later. he a damaged man. the right thing was done. move on.
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