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  • Cutthroat
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    #61
    Let's go down the list of guys that have rocked or dropped Fury:

    -Pajkic
    -Cunningham
    -Chisora
    -Abell
    -Firtha

    Anyone else? Didn't see any of his earlier fights.

    You can say some of those occurred early in his career, but the pattern remains, his chin isn't very good. His height really saves his ass, just like most tall fighters. It's hard punching upwards, it's easily seen because it has to travel a long distance, you have a limited arsenal of punches that you can land, the act itself of punching upwards is much harder to generate power than punching downwards.

    Height is a defense in itself and it'll be gone against Wilder who will be in range, able to land his punches.

    It will be a competitive fight until Wilder lands his right hand or even a left hook, which Fury is wide open for. Wilder's reflexes are severely underrated, I'd give him the advantage if they get into exchanges.

    Wilder's only been down in the amateurs as 200lb stick with 2 years of boxing experience. His only other recorded knock down came against Sconiers, which there is no footage of, and Wilder miraculously recovered to KO him right after that.

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    • kafkod
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      #62
      Originally posted by Ravens Fan
      Firtha absolutely knocked the snot out of Fury in that 3rd round. But don't tell Fury fans because they seem to be in deep denial about such events.
      Nobody is denying anything. I just corrected someone who wrote that Firtha had put Fury on his ass.

      Why would Fury's fans need to be in denial about anything? He's unbeaten and in a great position with his career. Is he the only top class heavyweight out there who has ever been rocked by a punch?

      Please get a life mate. You beginning to come across like a broken record with this same stuff over and over again.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        Let's go down the list of guys that have rocked or dropped Fury:

        -Pajkic
        -Cunningham
        -Chisora
        -Abell
        -Firtha

        Anyone else? Didn't see any of his earlier fights.

        You can say some of those occurred early in his career, but the pattern remains, his chin isn't very good. His height really saves his ass, just like most tall fighters. It's hard punching upwards, it's easily seen because it has to travel a long distance, you have a limited arsenal of punches that you can land, the act itself of punching upwards is much harder to generate power than punching downwards.

        Height is a defense in itself and it'll be gone against Wilder who will be in range, able to land his punches.

        It will be a competitive fight until Wilder lands his right hand or even a left hook, which Fury is wide open for. Wilder's reflexes are severely underrated, I'd give him the advantage if they get into exchanges.

        Wilder's only been down in the amateurs as 200lb stick with 2 years of boxing experience. His only other recorded knock down came against Sconiers, which there is no footage of, and Wilder miraculously recovered to KO him right after that.
        When Wilder went down in the amateurs was he not stopped? Fury got off the canvas several times and won each and everytime. If height is a defense in itself then Wilder's will be gone against Fury. Fury's reflexes.... scrap that... everything about Fury is underrated. In my hypothetical fight Wilder starts off good but gets stopped late into the fight (been past 4th once?). Wilder's chin is yet to be tested by someone his own size and who can hit half as hard as Fury. Fury is the more polished boxer (othodox & southpaw) and has gone the distance numerous times. Not digging just you out but I think there's some blind hate about Fury on NSB.

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        • Cutthroat
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          #64
          Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
          When Wilder went down in the amateurs was he not stopped? Fury got off the canvas several times and won each and everytime. If height is a defense in itself then Wilder's will be gone against Fury. Fury's reflexes.... scrap that... everything about Fury is underrated. In my hypothetical fight Wilder starts off good but gets stopped late into the fight (been past 4th once?). Wilder's chin is yet to be tested by someone his own size and who can hit half as hard as Fury. Fury is the more polished boxer (othodox & southpaw) and has gone the distance numerous times. Not digging just you out but I think there's some blind hate about Fury on NSB.

          I give Wilder a pass though based on the fact that he was a Cruiser weight when he got stopped in the amateurs. He really was a stick, <200lbs with 2 years of boxing experience in general. He gained 20lbs of muscle since then, and we've seen numerous times throughout a fighter's career, when they drain themselves their "chin" suffers, that is a correlation that can't be ignored. Even Tua got stopped in the amateurs, iron chin in the pros as he's much bigger and filled out.

          I'm not saying Wilder is going to outbox him, I just see no defense at all from Fury, he's clearly the better boxer, but I don't think it'll matter with Wilder's 1 punch power. I think his defense has just been just good enough to get him by against shorter guys and sub par competition. Fury has fought nobody that had close to Wilder's power, yet he's been dropped against much less fighters. Fury's right hand is dangerously low (which is why he gets dropped so much) and he lacks the reflexes/head movement to dodge Wilder's punches.

          Fury gets hit by a ton of telegraphed punches too, so I don't think Wilder will have trouble landing at all.

          Stiverne is one of the hardest punchers in the division, his power rivals the best, Wilder took his shots pretty well. He got hit flush a few times, handled it without much problem.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            I give Wilder a pass though based on the fact that he was a Cruiser weight when he got stopped in the amateurs. He really was a stick, <200lbs with 2 years of boxing experience in general. He gained 20lbs of muscle since then, and we've seen numerous times throughout a fighter's career, when they drain themselves their "chin" suffers, that is a correlation that can't be ignored. Even Tua got stopped in the amateurs, iron chin in the pros as he's much bigger and filled out.

            I'm not saying Wilder is going to outbox him, I just see no defense at all from Fury, he's clearly the better boxer, but I don't think it'll matter with Wilder's 1 punch power. I think his defense has just been just good enough to get him by against shorter guys and sub par competition. Fury has fought nobody that had close to Wilder's power, yet he's been dropped against much less fighters. Fury's right hand is dangerously low (which is why he gets dropped so much) and he lacks the reflexes/head movement to dodge Wilder's punches.

            Fury gets hit by a ton of telegraphed punches too, so I don't think Wilder will have trouble landing at all.

            Stiverne is one of the hardest punchers in the division, his power rivals the best, Wilder took his shots pretty well. He got hit flush a few times, handled it without much problem.
            I like Fury myself, have for a while but i agree with most of what you've said about a matchup with Wilder. And the fact that Fury seems to now prefer fighting at range, he is going to be even more in trouble against Wilder imo. I would hope to see him cut the distance and get right on top of Wilder and use his fluidity on the inside to give himself a chance. He hides his head better and is more angular in close quarters

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              #66
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              I give Wilder a pass though based on the fact that he was a Cruiser weight when he got stopped in the amateurs. He really was a stick, <200lbs with 2 years of boxing experience in general. He gained 20lbs of muscle since then, and we've seen numerous times throughout a fighter's career, when they drain themselves their "chin" suffers, that is a correlation that can't be ignored. Even Tua got stopped in the amateurs, iron chin in the pros as he's much bigger and filled out.

              I'm not saying Wilder is going to outbox him, I just see no defense at all from Fury, he's clearly the better boxer, but I don't think it'll matter with Wilder's 1 punch power. I think his defense has just been just good enough to get him by against shorter guys and sub par competition. Fury has fought nobody that had close to Wilder's power, yet he's been dropped against much less fighters. Fury's right hand is dangerously low (which is why he gets dropped so much) and he lacks the reflexes/head movement to dodge Wilder's punches.

              Fury gets hit by a ton of telegraphed punches too, so I don't think Wilder will have trouble landing at all.

              Stiverne is one of the hardest punchers in the division, his power rivals the best, Wilder took his shots pretty well. He got hit flush a few times, handled it without much problem.
              They both have their flaws and to be honest I don't have a bad word to say about Wilder he's a breath of fresh air. As for Fury's defence your correct he does leave his hand very low but it kinda sharpens up the jab to the point where it's pushing the nose bridge upwards (cork screw) and he's got decent lateral movement for a super heavyweight.

              I just wish the David Haye fight(s) would have gone ahead because apart from Wlad and Wilder now those four are the main elite heavyweights in my opinion and would have really introduced Fury to the world if he had won.

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                #67
                Originally posted by denium
                Wilder fans are praying that Hammer gets the upset so Fury won't get the chance to expose their guy.
                I hope that Fury wins and looks like a million bucks so that when Wilder folds him up like a lawn chair, people won't be able to say that Fury was on the slide or was coming off of a bad performance or something. I saw him get dropped by Cunningham, and once Wilder connects, Fury is going into retreat mode because he will know, in that instant, that his mouth has finally written a check that he can't cash.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Nobody is denying anything. I just corrected someone who wrote that Firtha had put Fury on his ass.

                  Why would Fury's fans need to be in denial about anything? He's unbeaten and in a great position with his career. Is he the only top class heavyweight out there who has ever been rocked by a punch?

                  Please get a life mate. You beginning to come across like a broken record with this same stuff over and over again.
                  In my opinion Fury fans seem to spend a lot of time making excuses for him, and the Firtha fight has always been a good example. Therefore, I simply replied to someone that mentioned Firtha. By the way since you are so thin skinned may I suggest the badminton forum, that may be more your style.

                  And you of all people dare to say that someone else on this forum sounds like a broken record. That is by far the funniest thing you ever said. Lol lmao lol lol lmao see it may me laugh hysterically. Here is another idea, if what I say bothers you so much don't read it or put me on ignore, problem solved.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Cut Man
                    Chambers is full of **** man. "Talking about Fury - "He's american, I'm American" What the fck is he talking about? He also says "Fury's been fighting 10, 12 round fights his whole career, Wilder hasn't seen the 5th round." Maybe because Wilder knocked his opponents the fck out, Most within the first round and all inside the 4th. Put both Eddie Chambers and Tyson Fury in a ring with Wilder at the same time and he'll knock them both out.
                    Fury and Chambers vs Wilder and Wilder wins eh? Wow. Like sensationalism much? As for Wilder, 32 cans gave him his high KO percentage. Really shouldn't embarrass yourself by not acknowledging that at least.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                      In my opinion Fury fans seem to spend a lot of time making excuses for him, and the Firtha fight has always been a good example. Therefore, I simply replied to someone that mentioned Firtha. By the way since you are so thin skinned may I suggest the badminton forum, that may be more your style.

                      And you of all people dare to say that someone else on this forum sounds like a broken record. That is by far the funniest thing you ever said. Lol lmao lol lol lmao see it may me laugh hysterically. Here is another idea, if what I say bothers you so much don't read it or put me on ignore, problem solved.
                      I do ignore many people on here. But you and I are chums, remember. I care about you mate.

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