Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: HBO, Showtime Deal Not Done

[Marvellous1]

Does the HBO president even know the difference between "principles" and "principals". You would think a person in that position would, wouldn't you?

I don't know what is going on, like everyone else here doesn't. Acting like you do, or proving that you don't (through ****** ass-umptions) is entertaining though.

[v.cassiusali@ya]

what can you expect from the coward? remember he said before the ortiz fight, "yes pacquiao, you're next" but after pacquiao dismantled bigger guys, said; "health comes first"..nothing new chickenfloyd...fight bums to make your day...

[Marvellous1]

what can you expect from the coward? remember he said before the ortiz fight, "yes pacquiao, you're next" but after pacquiao dismantled bigger guys, said; "health comes first"..nothing new chickenfloyd...fight bums to make your day...

Remeber before Marquez VI, Pacquiao asserted that Maywesther doesn't make the rules amd walked from the biggest fight out there (Roach admitted it). After getting slept, he says "olympic style testing is good for boxing". Boxers says ****** stuff and make ****** decisions all the time. Siding with one fool over another doesn't make you a genius.

[GRUSTLER]

him simply running his mouth shouldn't within itself cause negotiations to break off. Only way it does is if Mayweather gets upset and like you said if that happens the blame falls on Mayweather and Mayweather alone.

So Arum lying about the fight and it not getting made because of Arum lies is on Mayweather if the fight don't get made?.......

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[Twako]

Sorry but you are going by sources which the other day you Floyd fans said "who are these anonomous sources" and laughed. Now you are contradicting yourselves.

Not just Arum but HBO officially stated the same.

Nobody is saying that the Networks is a done deal even though they may have agreed on all the major points. There is a reason for that. Floyd can always come back and put another demand. You are smart enough to realize that and that is what HBO and Arum are saying!!!

they always contradict themselves. now they're taking those unnamed sources' news as gospel

todd is irate at bob for talking to the media during negotiations but NOT lying to the media. yet somehow these fl()m()s would rather believe the latter to suit their agenda.

[AgainstTheRopes]

So Arum lying about the fight and it not getting made because of Arum lies is on Mayweather if the fight don't get made?.......

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I said if all Arum is doing is just lying about where negotiations are, I dont see how that would cause negotiations to break down. Only way the lies will stop the fight is if it gets Mayweather so upset that he walks away. Then yes at that point it is entirely Mayweather's fault for being insecure enough to walk away from the deal because all Arum did was upset him.

[davidandrei]

my speculation on the arum timeline:
- when you try to sell something to someone, you make it easy for them to say yes. in the beginning arum was saying ok we agree to all YOUR demands, you should be ok with it so sign it now. this did not work.
- arum tried to pressure him with duck campaign. this did not work but it did get a reaction out of mayweather. he went to pac and convinced pac/koncz he wanted this fight.
- Now arum is left with just being a cheerleader who is trying to keep the public upbeat with fights almost done and dropping little tidbits.

Mayweather side's stance has always been we are still negotiating. If you want to fault him, then fault him for taking so long. but mayweather is the primary promoter here for one of the biggest fights in history. Arum probably had the whole thing figured out and gave Mayweather the blueprint of promoting, but Mayweather wanted to do everything on his own.

[GRUSTLER]

I said if all Arum is doing is just lying about where negotiations are, I dont see how that would cause negotiations to break down. Only way the lies will stop the fight is if it gets Mayweather so upset that he walks away. Then yes at that point it is entirely Mayweather's fault for being insecure enough to walk away from the deal because all Arum did was upset him.

Your logic is flawed because there are deals that don't happen for lesser than what Arum is doing. Big money deals at that. Blaming Mayweather for walking away from a fight do to someone else being ignorant and trying to sabotage the deal is not fair. Take it from somebody who did contracts before. You don't piss off the person you want to make money with/if you do then it's your fault. Sure Floyd should not let him but Arum should not instigate it.

[ironmt]

Your logic is flawed because there are deals that don't happen for lesser than what Arum is doing. Big money deals at that. Blaming Mayweather for walking away from a fight do to someone else being ignorant and trying to sabotage the deal is not fair. Take it from somebody who did contracts before. You don't piss off the person you want to make money with/if you do then it's your fault. Sure Floyd should not let him but Arum should not instigate it.

That Is some logic. Is there anyone that you work with that gets under your skin, that you do not get along with, that angers you, that pisses you off?

It's called life, It happens everyday. He needs to grow up. Arum Is a piece of **** businessman as most are but Floyd needs to take some responsibility when this fight most likely falls through.

One person we know should not and will not be blamed Is Pacquiao and Floyd himself said so.

[Ham Porter]

I said if all Arum is doing is just lying about where negotiations are, I dont see how that would cause negotiations to break down. Only way the lies will stop the fight is if it gets Mayweather so upset that he walks away. Then yes at that point it is entirely Mayweather's fault for being insecure enough to walk away from the deal because all Arum did was upset him.

I'm sure the public would be perfectly understanding if such an excuse was used by Mayweather to explain such a breakdown in negotiations.