Can Timothy Bradley be a success at 154?

[SplitSecond]

Even if he tries to stick and move, he'll still have a hard time winning. He's not that fluid and effective when he boxes. Guys like Cotto and Canelo would punish him.

canelo would be able to do nothing to bradley if he dances, the guy spins out too well, but like i said, he can't end up in the brawls, he has to really discipline himself

i think he'd beat cotto also if he could stay disciplined with his boxing, his speed would see him countering cotto all night and moving out, guy just can't get too heavy which he looked vs chaves, he's gotta do something about running out of steam, either pace himself or came in lighter(he was 156 fight night vs chaves, guy is 5'6, probabley barely as he's noticebly shorter than pacquaio)

[Carpe Diem]

canelo would be able to do nothing to bradley if he dances, the guy spins out too well, but like i said, he can't end up in the brawls, he has to really discipline himself

i think he'd beat cotto also if he could stay disciplined with his boxing, his speed would see him countering cotto all night and moving out, guy just can't get too heavy which he looked vs chaves, he's gotta do something about running out of steam, either pace himself or came in lighter(he was 156 fight night vs chaves, guy is 5'6, probabley barely as he's noticebly shorter than pacquaio)

I really can't see him using movement and beating Canelo that way. He doesn't box well enough. Bradley doesn't know how to set traps and anticipate attacks. Look at the Devon fight. Bradley fought very sloppy in that fight and Devon was able to countered him with some good shots. Canelo is a very good counter-puncher. Bradley doesn't have the range to close in the gap and beat Canelo to the punch. As i said, Bradley can box, but he's no, Floyd or Rigo. Ruslan could've beaten him if he knew how to move his head and punch a bit more accurately.

Canelo is not effective at cutting the ring off, but he can box and counter-punch quite well. I don't see how Bradley can move in and land his usual body shots without getting clipped by, Canelo. Cotto knows how to cut the ring off and has a great offset power jab that would force Bradley to think twice about ramming in head first. Bradley would have to box at another level in order to beat him.

Bradley is a good boxer, but he's not as gifted and talented like, Floyd and Rigo. I'm having a hard time seeing a guy who rarely throws straight sharp punches other than his jab beating, Canelo and Cotto. I just can't see Bradley fighting a smart fight for 12 rounds and making smart adjustments when Cotto and Canelo start imposing their size advantage against him.


You can say he boxed well against Marquez, but Marquez isn't that hard to outbox and he didn't had a natural size advantage that Cotto and Canelo would have agains, Bradley.

[SplitSecond]

I really can't see him using movement and beating Canelo that way. Canelo is very good counter-puncher. Bradley doesn't have the range to close in the gap and beat Canelo to the punch. As i said, Bradley can box, but he's no Floyd or Rigo. Ruslan could've beaten him if he knew how to move his head and punch a bit more accurately.

Canelo is not effective at cutting the ring off, but he can box and counter-punch quite well. I don't see how Bradley can move in and land his usual body shots without getting clipped by Canelo. Cotto knows how to cut the ring off and has a great offset power jab that would force Bradley to think twice about ramming in head first. Bradley would have to box at another level in order to beat him.

Bradley is a good boxer, but he's not as gifted and talented like Floyd and Rigo. I'm having a hard time seeing a guy who rarely throws straight sharp punches other than his jab beating Canelo and Cotto. I just can't see Bradley fighting a smart fight for 12 rounds and making smart adjustments when Cotto and Canelo start imposing their size advantage against him.


You can say he box well against Marquez, but Marquez isn't that hard to outbox and he didn't had a natural size advantage that Cotto and Canelo would have.

i'd have more doubts vs canelo, like you say, canelo is a good counter-puncher, and against bradley he should focus mainly to the body, he'll break him down quick being so big and strong(but then again the healthy weight for him to have this power is over 154)

against cotto i dont see his jab being as effective as usual because of how low bradley fights and comes in, all he gives you most of the time when defending is the top of his head whilst coming over with overhands and hooks, cotto stands straight up(or atleast doesn't duck anywhere near as low as bradley) and doesn't utilize as much or as rapid in and out movement as pacquiao to deal with that hopkins like tactic of bradley's, so i dont see cotto's jab being that effective, esspecially if bradley dives in low alot and works cotto inside before moving out again, it works great against guys who stand upright although im sure it will have it's moments, along with cotto's other punches, bradley is just too game and he fights with combo's, cotto is guarded up, bradley will flurry on him and move, counter him on the outside in a more even field and out-hustle him on the inside

their sizes aren't far apart neither, cotto's slightly heavier, but i dont think it will help him much, actually think it might have taken some out of his stamina

[Carpe Diem]

i'd have more doubts vs canelo, like you say, canelo is a good counter-puncher, and against bradley he should focus mainly to the body, he'll break him down quick being so big and strong(but then again the healthy weight for him to have this power is over 154)

against cotto i dont see his jab being as effective as usual because of how low bradley fights and comes in, all he gives you most of the time when defending is the top of his head whilst coming over with overhands and hooks, cotto stands straight up(or atleast doesn't duck anywhere near as low as bradley) and doesn't utilize as much or as rapid in and out movement as pacquiao to deal with that hopkins like tactic of bradley's, so i dont see cotto's jab being that effective, esspecially if bradley dives in low alot and works cotto inside before moving out again, it works great against guys who stand upright although im sure it will have it's moments, along with cotto's other punches, bradley is just too game and he fights with combo's, cotto is guarded up, bradley will flurry on him and move, counter him on the outside in a more even field and out-hustle him on the inside

their sizes aren't far apart neither, cotto's slightly heavier, but i dont think it will help him much, actually think it might have taken some out of his stamina

You made some good points, but i still don't see how Bradley would beat either guy. He'd make them work without a doubt, but i don't see Bradley getting in and loading up with his wide punches and expect Cotto and Canelo to not make him pay. Bradley would take a beating from both guys.

[CANELOLUJAH]

nope, hes boxing skills arent that great to begin with and puncing power means something at some point.

at 154 he will get no ones respect with his pitty pat punches. and we know no respect = getting your ass knocked out.

[Buckfever]

No he's too small.

[Carpe Diem]

I remember the look he had on his face when the camera zoomed in on his face after he got dropped by Ruslan in the 12th round. He knew he done ****ed up and was very lucky to be saved with just a few seconds left in that round. Lol

[Dinamita 03]

He still has a lot to prove at 147 why rush to 154? Other than a big money fight of course. He should definitely try to win a legit belt at welterweight. Knowing the politics in the game it would realistically have to be the IBF belt.

[jas]

"Marquez is not hard to outbox"

Where does this nonsense come from?