Peds increases stamina, so why dont we just allow it in boxing???

[jas]

i dont care about that fair play fake moral high ground bull****.

nobody is dying as a result of these medications being used.

if its so acceptably wide known to use, where are the dead bodies?

PEDs make a fighter more powerful

If you don't know how that is more harmful for the guy being punched then you're ******ed

[SterlingStained]

PEDs make a fighter more powerful

If you don't know how that is more harmful for the guy being punched then you're ******ed

how does having more stamina make somebody more powerful?

there are medications that specialize in stamina.

what is producing the power? what is more natural? medication or weight lifting?

isnt power a natural thing? isnt it you have to have thick legs and calves?

if paulie malignaggi took something you think he would turn to GGG?

you're fcking ******ed demonizing something that hasnt killed anybody. you're so blinded and mind controlled like a damn zombie sheep demonizing something that has absolutely no effect to your life.

carry on self righteous ******s as these athletes takes peds already deemed legal by their governing bodies without any real medical justificiation.

[jas]

Look at the OP

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=639902

Smh

[Furn]

i dont care about that fair play fake moral high ground bull****.

nobody is dying as a result of these medications being used.

if its so acceptably wide known to use, where are the dead bodies?

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39997062/

[SterlingStained]

Look at the OP

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=639902

Smh

what's your point?

im pointing out that marquez used peds. did i say he should give his money back and the fans be reimbursed?



what's that suppose to prove?

[JimEarl]

i dont care about that fair play fake moral high ground bull****.

nobody is dying as a result of these medications being used.

if its so acceptably wide known to use, where are the dead bodies?

Yeah EPO can be deadly if you aren't monitoring hemocrit while using it and there were fatalities in cycling when it first began to be used. Problem is that it thickens blood when the user isn't active so heart attacks in one's sleep are sometimes the result.

When cycling teams were using it they were monitoring riders hemocrit before there were tests for it. Back then the controls simply measured white blood cells and if they were over 50% the rider was disqualified. So the teams kept track of the hemocrit to keep it just under 50%.

This isn't something you want youngsters to try on their own without the proper monitoring equipment and someone who knows what they are doing with it.

[SterlingStained]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=563165

what else you got jas?

did you think you "owned" me with that post?

[jas]

forget about the fact that he started knocking down pacquiao at his latest age at a higher weight when he never even came close to doing it in his prime.

. .

[jas]

Boxing Insider: Now if you***8217;re a fighter***8212;let***8217;s take this over to boxing for example***8212;in your medical opinion, what specifically is taking testosterone going to help you do in the sport of boxing?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: It makes you stronger. You have faster recovery from injury. In a fight, if you were hit you might recover faster than if you weren***8217;t on steroids. I think Khan was surprised that Peterson had the recuperative powers he did in their first fight. It also raises the boxer***8217;s level of confidence, and his appetite for risk. That***8217;s where it***8217;s particularly scary, because it makes you more aggressive. Of course fighters are aggressive, but it***8217;s supposed to be controlled aggression, which the referee tries to oversee and encourage. Then there***8217;s aggressiveness to the point of going over the line. That is hitting the opponent low, or really continuing to hit an opponent when the ref***8217;s trying to stop it, or right off the break.
Obviously the extreme would be Mike Tyson biting Holyfield***8217;s ear. I***8217;m not saying Tyson was using steroids, but his behavior that night would be compatible with ***8220;roid rage,***8221; that kind of overreaction. So, really, fighters are in danger. You are taking your life in your hands when you go into the ring, and you are more or less hoping***8212;or expecting***8212;that, yes, the other fighter wants to win***8230;but he***8217;s not out to destroy you or your career. It***8217;s like what***8217;s going on with the NFL today with head injuries. You understand there***8217;s a risk. You understand you***8217;ll be tackled, but you***8217;re hoping that the other guy doesn***8217;t want to end your career.
But if you***8217;re in there with somebody who***8217;s hyped up on steroids, this guy won***8217;t necessarily care about your career or anything else. Interestingly, when I looked at Peterson***8217;s background, his father was in prison, the mother had personal issues***8212; and of course, a lot of fighters do come from troubled backgrounds. But having a family history of emotional problems or a family history of drug use does put an individual at more risk for steroid use and abuse.
Boxing Insider: Is that due to the nature of survival? Like you***8217;ll do whatever you have to do to survive?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Well no, I just think it***8217;s a genetic thing. You***8217;re just predisposed.

Boxing Insider: Something that you mentioned I found interesting was the factor of recovering faster in boxing. Of course if you get hit on the chin, you***8217;d need that immediate recovery. What is your opinion medically when it***8217;s said that somebody has a good chin in boxing? Do think that it***8217;s based on conditioning? Genetics? Certain places that you***8217;re more susceptible to being knocked out for instance***8212;on the chin, above the temple, the back of the head***8212;would a steroid necessarily help someone that gets hit flush on one of those spots? Would any kind of drug help that?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Yes it would. Because one of the places that steroids really [help] are the neck muscles. If you strengthen your neck muscles, you***8217;re going to be able to absorb a hit to the chin better. The neck muscles really thicken in a steroid user. If you look at the neck of Barry Bonds when he first came up, and then, years later, when he was finally shamed out of the sport, it***8217;s amazing. Not just the forehead, and in the hat size getting bigger, but the neck. There are some actual mathematical equations that a colleague of mine at Harvard uses, looking at photos and using a caliper and being able to predict who***8217;s using and who***8217;s not. But there***8217;s also absolutely a genetic ability to absorbing a punch. Obviously the more you train, and the better shape you***8217;re in, you***8217;re going to absorb it better, too. But some guys just genetically can take it on the chin better, and other guys have a quote ***8220;weak chin.***8221;

http://www.boxing insider.com/headli...-psychiatrist/

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Cuz then it'll be a war of PEDs and not a war of skills, the fighter that uses the better PEDs will have a significant advantage in the fight.
Also PEDs do a lot of long term damage if used for a prolonged period of time cuz it changes the hormones. People go crazy cuz of it and it might make you take too much punishment without feeling it which will allow you to continue to fight without sensing that you're actually hurt and ur body should stop.