Comments Thread For: Let's Be Fair To Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[davidandrei]

the circle jerk continues. they are all liars. ill give mayweather side this though, their story never changed, but doesnt necessarily mean its true. if arum said they agree today then mayweather ask him to suck his *** tomorrow and arum says ok theres a few minor details to hammer out (example, how deep does he have to go?) that shows he flip flopped.
Arum may have won the PR battle but Mayweather winning the negotiation battle.

[IMDAZED]

Wow @ this article. Is Lyle ghostwriting for Ronnie?

[IMDAZED]

I'm glad that the word is finally starting to get out about the lying in regards to there being a contract to sign. That was all bull****.

To be fair to Pacquiao I don't think he was behind the lie, though. He most likely was just taking action based on what Arum and Koncz told him.

Well Ronnie pretty much says that too. Although didn't Manny feel funny saying "Sign the contract" when he himself hadn't signed anything?

Anyway, that was a really, really great article. Well done, Ronnie, and i hope Mayweather does speak to the Philippine press.

[Rome-By-Ko]

People always need someone to blame..IMO both are to blame,they both did things that made you put your hands on your head and scream..That's where I'll leave it..I do hope this fight finally happens tho,neither guy is getting any younger,it's time..

[Anomaly460]

The logo on Floyd's hoodie is an alternate Louis Vuitton logo.

[Bronx2245]

There were no negotiations when he mentioned the outdoor stadium, and pacquiao had agreed to random blood and urine 24 days from the fight and immediately after and Floyd walked away. In fact Floyd has walked away from other rounds of negotiations lots of times. One time Floyd and golden boy even tried to say top rank was lying about there being negotiations yet Ross greenburg from HBO confirmed he was the go between in the negotiations. Floyds made a ridiculous 40 million dollar offer to pacquiao a couple years back and Manny countered with a reasonable 50/50 offer which Floyd backed away from. Mayweather even told bob costas that Michael kontz even went to Vegas to try to negotiate a deal, but mayweather was sticking with the 40 million and wasn't willing to give up any ppv revenue. Also how come he refused to work with arum all those years and now he will? Back in 09 he was willing too yet he used that excuse all those years and you fan boys backed him up. Seems like this round arum and co. Are really trying to make this fight and mayweather and co. Are really downplaying it and dint seem interested. That leads me to believe Floyd mayweather isn't even planning to fight pacquiao.

Why are you still defending "the devil?" Roach has already admitted that the first negotiations were TR's fault, so why are you stll not convinced. We all know that Arum said Manny could fight in May, until Floyd got a continuance, then it was "Absolutely not, Nope!" We know about the excuses regarding cuts, stadiums, etc. Now we know that it was TR that was "lying' once again, saying Floyd needs to sign a contract, that didn't exist. Why do you still give any credibility to TR? If you can't understand, after all these bull**** excuses, and PR tactics by Arum, why Floyd doesn't want to deal with Arum, then it's YOU who has the problem, and not Floyd. We know that the author of this article is NO FLOYD FAN. If he can admit the truth, why can't you?

[MrRolltide91]

Before he and Manny exchanged phone numbers and agreed to talk, Mayweather demanded that Pacquiao and his longtime adviser Michael Koncz as well as Bob Arum ***8220;stop lying***8221; about a contract that was non existent.

Pacquiao, Koncz and Arum kept mouthing the same line asking Mayweather to sign the contract when there was none.

Koncz himself admitted that to us. In short, they were lying and got caught.

In fact one of the conditions laid down by Mayweather was for Koncz to talk to Ben Thompson of Fight Hype who is regarded as Floyd***8217;s man who even has his phone number, and retract the statement that there was a contract that Mayweather hadn***8217;t signed.

Koncz did as he was told.



HMMMMMMMMMMM

[hitking]

By far Ronnie's best piece. Spin away F.uckt@rds.

[Fetta]

Everyone wants fight excet Bob it seems. I hope im wrong but it seems the excuses are trickling out. I really hope im wrong cause i haven't been this excited for this fight in awhile. Please be trolling to build hype

[Bronx2245]

Whats that you mentioned? 3 "excuses" but how many more does floyd have that ya justify and defend? Get real

Why are you still talking about this bull****? You know why Floyd vs. Margarito didn't happen, and you know who was the "Golden Boy," at the time:

April 25, 2006:

Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road..."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

This is not news to anyone who knows boxing. Arum has a history of these tactics. You don't have to take my word, get it from your hero, Miguel Cotto:

October 5, 2012:

For the 2009 fight, Cotto's deal with Top Rank called for a guaranteed $6.5 million purse, plus a share of the pay-per-view profits. During the Sergio Martinez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. promotion last month, Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

"The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight."

Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

"Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

"Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...rematch-boxing

So what happened? Miguel Cotto turned down the Manny rematch, went on to fight Mayweather @ 154, and Cotto made his biggest purse to date...WITHOUT BOB ARUM!!!